Short stroke piston AR's in Canada
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Dude seriously get lost. Trying to start #### again with me?
You have no idea what I can and cannot afford, I could buy two today if wanted.
Have you imported anything yet?? NO!!
Have you started the manufacturing of YOUR new rifles yet?? NO!!!
Its nice to have dreams isnt it Severus
Time to picture up big mouth, lets see some high dollar rifles and handguns that your big wallet funds.
I`ll put my PWS AR15s against this turd with the holes drilled incorrectly anyday.
You have no idea what I can and cannot afford, I could buy two today if wanted.
Have you imported anything yet?? NO!!
Have you started the manufacturing of YOUR new rifles yet?? NO!!!
Its nice to have dreams isnt it Severus
Time to picture up big mouth, lets see some high dollar rifles and handguns that your big wallet funds.
I`ll put my PWS AR15s against this turd with the holes drilled incorrectly anyday.
Dude seriously get lost. Trying to start s**t again with me?
You have no idea what I can and cannot afford, I could buy two today if wanted.
Have you imported anything yet?? NO!!
Have you started the manufacturing of YOUR new rifles yet?? NO!!!
Its nice to have dreams isnt it Severus
Time to picture up big mouth, lets see some high dollar rifles and handguns that your big wallet funds.
I`ll put my PWS AR15s against this turd with the holes drilled incorrectly anyday.
Ozz, no offense meant. Would not want to start anything after you reported me last time.
Have you imported anything yet?? NO!!
- LWRC REPR 7.62x51mm DOS denied
- SCAR 16S 5.56x45 mm DOS denied
Have you started the manufacturing of YOUR new rifles yet?? NO!!!
- On Solid Edge. Design and MFG does not happen overnight.
- In licensing negotiation with German manufacturer on a different rifle.
Time to picture up big mouth, lets see some high dollar rifles and handguns that your big wallet funds.
- P99 .40 S&W
- HK MK 23
- Swiss Black Special 5.56x45
- Armalite AR-10 SOF 7.62x51
- Open P.O. on SIG SAPR
Hope this helps.
rajczak_kashka
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Surrey, B.C.
It is a good idea.....if this is what you want to do. When buying anything with the intent to mix and match parts, modularity is very important. With the MR.....HK did not have this intention in mind. I bought this rifle knowing full well that this would be a shortfall if my goal was to swap uppers/lowers.My intent was not to do this and more than likely neither was the countless individuals who also bought these rifles. The HK MR223 is a piston driven AR as is the LMT PWS MRP and countless others. Simply because the HK does not interface with other manufacturers uppers/lowers does not in any way discount it. The only difference between my particular version of the MR223 and an HK416 (arguably the best assault rifle today and happens to be a piston driven AR as well) is that mine is semi only, the pins are offset a few mm`s and that it is stamped MR233 and not HK416D.
OZZ, it appears that your mind is made up on the MR....fair enough. I continued to post not to argue but to give another opinion on this particular platform. I have much experience with most things AR. I own and have owned all the top brands of AR platforms in various configurations. In my opinion, not one of these compares equally to the HK.
OZZ, it is clear that you are an ardent supporter of the AR platform. And that is fine. however, it does not give you license to call everyone else's choice garbage.
If you have an opinion fine then state so but why not try to to do so in a less offensive manner.
If you have an opinion fine then state so but why not try to to do so in a less offensive manner.
Please, you run to the mods over and over crying and I get banned.
Ozz, no offense meant. Would not want to start anything after you reported me last time.
Have you imported anything yet?? NO!!
- LWRC REPR 7.62x51mm DOS denied
- SCAR 16S 5.56x45 mm DOS denied
LOL!!!!!!!!!!! More like NSF, Not Sufficent Funds
Have you started the manufacturing of YOUR new rifles yet?? NO!!!
- On Solid Edge. Design and MFG does not happen overnight.
- In licensing negotiation with German manufacturer on a different rifle.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here take two more years..
Time to picture up big mouth, lets see some high dollar rifles and handguns that your big wallet funds.
- P99 .40 S&W
- HK MK 23
- Swiss Black Special 5.56x45
- Armalite AR-10 SOF 7.62x51
- Open P.O. on SIG SAPR
LOL!!!!!!! Big dollar items my friend and a Purchase order.
Lets see the pics, baller
Hope this helps.
That's like asking "what's the best car?"... impossible question to answer because you first have to define the criteria on which to judge "best".
I have some familiarity with the LMT and PWS systems (own both and have sold lots)... they are very well designed... very well made... and both have pretty good reputations as being good product and good companies that stand behind their product. This is one reason why we import them and offer them for sale.
I really like the PWS Diablo... works VERY well. I've run my personal (T&E) gun for about 2 years now... we RARELY CLEAN IT
and we've loaned it out, sent it to courses, run it in the rain... pretty much abused the heck out of it using a variety of ammo and operators... it's done extremely well and with pretty much no complaints. We also sent a PWS gas piston conversion we did (on an LMT 10.5" upper) to one of our LE departments who wanted to test the PWS system with the Suppressors... they ran the heck out of it and reported back that it functioned better than anything else they had tested to date. The PWS long stroke gas piston system works.The CMMG Gas Piston AR's worked very well. We sold quite a few of them and frankly they were way under-priced... I think a lot of people did not take the gun seriously because it was priced so low. We don't carry CMMG any longer but that had nothing to do with the gun... it was simply a business decision on our part.
The S&W M&P Gas Piston is new... we have yet to see one so I have no info on that.
The POF .308 has been getting pretty good reviews down in the US (the current production units). We ordered guns and uppers last year and just this past week started to receive delivery of our orders. They look very nice... quality of the materials and assembly is excellent. Very anxious to get out and do some testing. So far I like what we're seeing... these units have a lot of potential.
Mark
alberta tactical rifle
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- calgary alberta
We have CMMG piston kits and the quadrail to go with it.
Very political answer You know which is the best PWS!
I`ve shot and inspected all of those you listed except the POF and I thought the PWS was a better piston design basically a copy of the AK style.
The S&W piston upper is actually a Adams Arms piston conversion so whatever you think about those the S&W will be the same. There is also the Osprey kit out there that I might pick up on my next US road trip and give it a try. It looks like the easiest to install and lets you keep the original FSB which is a big plus.
You know which is the best PWS! I`ve shot and inspected all of those you listed except the POF and I thought the PWS was a better piston design basically a copy of the AK style.
The S&W piston upper is actually a Adams Arms piston conversion so whatever you think about those the S&W will be the same. There is also the Osprey kit out there that I might pick up on my next US road trip and give it a try. It looks like the easiest to install and lets you keep the original FSB which is a big plus.
That's like asking "what's the best car?"... impossible question to answer because you first have to define the criteria on which to judge "best".
I have some familiarity with the LMT and PWS systems (own both and have sold lots)... they are very well designed... very well made... and both have pretty good reputations as being good product and good companies that stand behind their product. This is one reason why we import them and offer them for sale.
I really like the PWS Diablo... works VERY well. I've run my personal (T&E) gun for about 2 years now... we RARELY CLEAN IT
The CMMG Gas Piston AR's worked very well. We sold quite a few of them and frankly they were way under-priced... I think a lot of people did not take the gun seriously because it was priced so low. We don't carry CMMG any longer but that had nothing to do with the gun... it was simply a business decision on our part.
The S&W M&P Gas Piston is new... we have yet to see one so I have no info on that.
The POF .308 has been getting pretty good reviews down in the US (the current production units). We ordered guns and uppers last year and just this past week started to receive delivery of our orders. They look very nice... quality of the materials and assembly is excellent. Very anxious to get out and do some testing. So far I like what we're seeing... these units have a lot of potential.
Mark
Thanks for the help guys...
I had a look at a few of the recommendations so far, i guess I need to do some reading now....
As for the MR223, I own one and I thinks it's the best rifle I have in my collection... I understand the argument of the inability to mix and match parts with AR's but then I don't think I would ever want or need to..aside from the MR223 being muzzle heavy, I can't see any downside to this rifle especially considering that i've put over 1000 rounds through it without a jam or a cleaning. I do however believe that there are piston AR's such as the LWRC that are just as reliable as the MR223, just trying to find one up here was the tricky part..
Again thanks for the info
I had a look at a few of the recommendations so far, i guess I need to do some reading now....
As for the MR223, I own one and I thinks it's the best rifle I have in my collection... I understand the argument of the inability to mix and match parts with AR's but then I don't think I would ever want or need to..aside from the MR223 being muzzle heavy, I can't see any downside to this rifle especially considering that i've put over 1000 rounds through it without a jam or a cleaning. I do however believe that there are piston AR's such as the LWRC that are just as reliable as the MR223, just trying to find one up here was the tricky part..
Again thanks for the info
