220 Grainers in 30-06

I bought a box of Sierra 220gr RNSP to work up some heavy loads for my .30-06 many years ago. Tried a couple loads but they didn't group well so that box of 220's is still on the shelf above my bench.
 
The 505 isn't great on ele unless you use 600s - and then it's a serious punisher.

Feeds nice though...no belt to get in the way.

5 down in the '06 is a good thing, but the 35 Whelan and 9.3x62 can do the same thing with more bullet. 5 300gr A-Frames out of the x62 is a whole lot of goodness.
 
BUM, I tried to get some 220gr bullets, but so far I haven't been able to get any.

There's some fairly different 220gr bullets available. I suspect the 220 Nosler Partition would out penetrate a 220gr Hornady RN, due to that partition, but I gotta get some first.

I have started collecting newspaper. Bought some plastic storage totes, to store the newspaper in, that I can also use to soak it. Next test I intend to use wet newsprint.
It's gonna be a while as I accumulate newspaper, summer holidays etc...

I've got a bunch of things I want to test. :)


Edit to add: bcteve's got some really good bullet test results, love his stuff!
 
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chuck nelson said:
Give me the slick feeding nature and 5 in the belly with a 30-06 over anything bigger any day. Plus the thing is useful for more than just daydreaming with.
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The 30-06 is fantastic, but lets no get carried away.

Its no 375.
 
The 375 and other big bores are all about tough going in big animals.
Tough bullet, tough skin, tough bone, dense internals (including the gut) are the 375s forte. Shoot a moose broadside in the lungs and while the 375H&H does the job it isn't the shocking killer a 30 mag is.
Why?...375 bullets are designed for heavy going and don't react violently to light going.

So...That you can't see the difference doesn't really surprise me.

Place the same moose at an extreme quartering away and the sleepy 375 will come violently alive...Now there is no comparison to the 30-06....Have no doubt.

If you want that 375 effect every time shoot game with a faster 375.

Yes, I own several variates of of what we are discussing.
 
X-fan said:
The 375 and other big bores are all about tough going in big animals.
Tough bullet, tough skin, tough bone, dense internals (including the gut) are the 375s forte. Shoot a moose broadside in the lungs and while the 375H&H does the job it isn't the shocking killer a 30 mag is.
Why?...375 bullets are designed for heavy going and don't react violently to light going.

So...That you can't see the difference doesn't really surprise me.

Place the same moose at an extreme quartering away and the sleepy 375 will come violently alive...Now there is no comparison to the 30-06....Have no doubt.

If you want that 375 effect every time shoot game with a faster 375.

Yes, I own several variates of of what we are discussing.
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Violently alive huh.
 
I like heavy bullets for the .30/06, and currently am working with 240 gr Woodleighs. When bullet weights exceed 200 grs, the best powders are the slow ones like H-4831, and I am currently being impressed with Hybrid 100V. If you guys are having trouble finding 220,s you should be able to get Woodleigh 220s or 240s from Tradex.
 
Boomer said:
I like heavy bullets for the .30/06, and currently am working with 240 gr Woodleighs. When bullet weights exceed 200 grs, the best powders are the slow ones like H-4831, and I am currently being impressed with Hybrid 100V. If you guys are having trouble finding 220,s you should be able to get Woodleigh 220s or 240s from Tradex.
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Have you shot anything with these Boomer?
 
Just looked at the tradex site in addition to the .308 offerings they have 215s for the 303 at $38 per 50. Sure would make a hundred dollar #4 sporter a very useful rifle!
 
Boomer said:
I like heavy bullets for the .30/06, and currently am working with 240 gr Woodleighs. When bullet weights exceed 200 grs, the best powders are the slow ones like H-4831, and I am currently being impressed with Hybrid 100V. If you guys are having trouble finding 220,s you should be able to get Woodleigh 220s or 240s from Tradex.
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Boomer, I checked that out. Those Woodleigh slugs are pretty fairly priced. I am going to order some 405gr .45-70, 220gr .308 and some 300gr .411 (.405Win). :)
 
chuck nelson said:
Then why not use the 505?

I'm also wondering if a 6.5X55 has taken any Moose and I'm thinking it has. To the tune of THOUSANDS.
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Well my recurve Bow and arrows have also never failed me....That my stick and string kills doesn't put it in the same class as the 375 does it?

So other than you just being a DIK....WTF is you point? :mad:
 
X-fan said:
Well my recurve Bow and arrows have also never failed me....That my stick and string kills doesn't put it in the same class as the 375 does it?

So other than you just being a DIK....WTF is you point? :mad:
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My point is this. We seem to be all fired up around here about an excuse for shooting something that is both impractical and applicably rare. Case in point the ridiculous charging two headed bear defense threads. Shoot something that you will actually use more than twice in a lifetime and you'd be better off. I've gone the other route and for what. To tell my buddies I have a "big bore"? The truth of the matter is we'd probably be better off putting money into something practical and reliable instead of something to boost the firearms count in the safe.

Oh and just because I don't agree with you does not make me a "DIK". It just as likely makes me right.:eek:
 
chuck nelson said:
My point is this. We seem to be all fired up around here about an excuse for shooting something that is both impractical and applicably rare. Case in point the ridiculous charging two headed bear defense threads. Shoot something that you will actually use more than twice in a lifetime and you'd be better off. I've gone the other route and for what. To tell my buddies I have a "big bore"? The truth of the matter is we'd probably be better off putting money into something practical and reliable instead of something to boost the firearms count in the safe.

Oh and just because I don't agree with you does not make me a "DIK". It just as likely makes me right.:eek:
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FWIW...


Chuck, I believe the .270 is a fine deer and pronghorn cartridge. The .270 is 'okay'... .270 and .30-06 are too small IMHO for moose...

My favorite deer caliber is the .308, in whatever flavor. My deer rifle is my M-700 Classic .300H&H with 200gr bullets, or old faithful, my 1980 M-700 .30-06 loaded with 165gr Hornadys. The 8x57 is damn nice medicine for the bucks too!!

Though I pretty much don't bother with the .30-06 for moose anymore, last year I did shoot a pretty decent bull with my M-1895 Winchester .30-06, loaded with 200gr Nosler Parts. But I took that more for the rifle, then the cartridge. I made sure to load it with the excellent NPs.
The idea of stepping up to the 220gr .308 pill in the .30-06, .300H&H, I think is a great idea. I'm gonna order me some!! :)

I like to open larger holes. For bears and moose, I prefer the .323 calibers and up.

My favorite moose & bear calibers/cartridges are 8x57, .338WM, .35Whelen, .416RM, .45-70 etc... I've got a .405Win that I am dying to shoot a bear with, maybe next year or later in the season. I've also got a .458Lott that needs to kill something, still haven't 'blooded' it.

Between the .35Whelen, .338WM and .416RM, I believe those are all 'perfect' cartridges for bear and moose.

I don't consider any of them to be impractical and I do not think there is any such thing as 'too dead'.
 
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