cz 858 bore rust
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Wow, and people say that I'm a ####...
I would say that on the subject of the VZ 58 in general, and cleaning, maintenance and testing in specific I have a few things to say.. I would bet that I have more rounds down the pipe of this rifle than anyone else in the country. I have probably done more abusive testing on this rifle than anyone else in Canada.
No I don't have a chrome lined barrel, no I don't even have any paint on my rifle to protect it. I have not cleaned my rifle in +5000 rnds. I have used it in the rain, dirt, etc. How come it isn't rusting? Since this is a thread about rusting of VZ's, I think that my previous input here stands as credible. Take my advice and experience for what it's worth. I'm saying that cleaning a rifle doesn't have to be a long drawn out overly complicated experience. If your gun is rusting, you aren't oiling it. If you are cleaning your gun to shoot it, run a dry swab down the bore. If you're cleaning it to store, leave it oiled. Again.. if your gun is rusting... oil it & keep it oiled... Oiled metal will not rust. I'm saying that cleaning a rifle doesn't have to be a long drawn out overly complicated experience.
So my specific reply to you would be .. STFU; since we're trying to be polite. Thanks for coming out though.
No rust... weird.
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What would be your ideal cleaning steps if I didn't want my rifle to look like I shat in it? Thanks
ThanksWow, and people say that I'm a ####...
I would say that on the subject of the VZ 58 in general, and cleaning, maintenance and testing in specific I have a few things to say.. I would bet that I have more rounds down the pipe of this rifle than anyone else in the country. I have probably done more abusive testing on this rifle than anyone else in Canada.
No I don't have a chrome lined barrel, no I don't even have any paint on my rifle to protect it. I have not cleaned my rifle in +5000 rnds. I have used it in the rain, dirt, etc. How come it isn't rusting? Since this is a thread about rusting of VZ's, I think that my previous input here stands as credible. Take my advice and experience for what it's worth. I'm saying that cleaning a rifle doesn't have to be a long drawn out overly complicated experience. If your gun is rusting, you aren't oiling it. If you are cleaning your gun to shoot it, run a dry swab down the bore. If you're cleaning it to store, leave it oiled. Again.. if your gun is rusting... oil it & keep it oiled... Oiled metal will not rust. I'm saying that cleaning a rifle doesn't have to be a long drawn out overly complicated experience.
So my specific reply to you would be .. STFU; since we're trying to be polite. Thanks for coming out though.
No rust... weird.
Wow, and people say that I'm a ####...
I would say that on the subject of the VZ 58 in general, and cleaning, maintenance and testing in specific I have a few things to say.. I would bet that I have more rounds down the pipe of this rifle than anyone else in the country. I have probably done more abusive testing on this rifle than anyone else in Canada.
No I don't have a chrome lined barrel, no I don't even have any paint on my rifle to protect it. I have not cleaned my rifle in +5000 rnds. I have used it in the rain, dirt, etc. How come it isn't rusting? Since this is a thread about rusting of VZ's, I think that my previous input here stands as credible. Take my advice and experience for what it's worth. I'm saying that cleaning a rifle doesn't have to be a long drawn out overly complicated experience. If your gun is rusting, you aren't oiling it. If you are cleaning your gun to shoot it, run a dry swab down the bore. If you're cleaning it to store, leave it oiled. Again.. if your gun is rusting... oil it & keep it oiled... Oiled metal will not rust. I'm saying that cleaning a rifle doesn't have to be a long drawn out overly complicated experience.
So my specific reply to you would be .. STFU; since we're trying to be polite. Thanks for coming out though.
No rust... weird.
ok maybe you cant read good
so i will say it again i oil alot
and people say you are a #### cause you are
stfu to you too what ever that means
tactical870
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Buckhorn, Ontario
My 858 is as good as the day I bought it and all I do is wipe it down well with lots of WD-40 like the owners manual says...... Have any of you actually read your owners manuals? I do strip the gun and wipe everything clean as well but even with lots of corrosive ammo down the pipe and minimal cleaning she still looks like new....
Clobbersauras
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Waaay out west.
Windex then G96. Bore snake the barrel and wipe all parts is what I've used on the various SKS's and VZ's I've owned. Have never had any rust on any of my rifles. The only bit I rust I ever got was when I kyloned the barrel of an old single shot 22 just to see how it would look. Within a week I had rust show through the paint, but I removed all oil and lightly sanded it before I painted.
No Oil = rust and Neit Arms said.
Also, be careful when putting oiling your barrel. If you leave it in there and don't run a patch or bore snake through it before you shoot you may ring the barrel. Accuracy, such as it is with these surplus rifles will suffer.
No Oil = rust and Neit Arms said.
Also, be careful when putting oiling your barrel. If you leave it in there and don't run a patch or bore snake through it before you shoot you may ring the barrel. Accuracy, such as it is with these surplus rifles will suffer.
Alright, everyone play nice or you'll be seperated. I used windex, then brake cleaner, then oil- no rust at all. I'm 20mins from the Pacific ocean. I use boiling water now, just because it evaporates quickly (I help it along with a nozzle and compressor). Check and re-oil every blue moon and your golden. I have seven rifles I shoot corrosive in and have no issues unless I leave water on anything. No biggie, no need to squabble.
What would be your ideal cleaning steps if I didn't want my rifle to look like I shat in it?
I do have VZ's that I don't leave a steamer in.
I use a patch soaked in water and wipe down the gas affected parts, run a wet patch down the barrel. Then repeat the process with Gunzilla and brass brushes. Apply a coat of oil on all parts and then wipe dry (gunzilla is meant to leave dry). I always leave my guns left wet though for storage and prior to shooting wipe it dry, dry swab the bore and go. Store wet, shoot dry. Again, oiled = no rust. If it rusts it's not oiled. Traditional oils can, will and do evaporate, migrate and absorb. So if you're using a traditional product reapplication will be necessary.
Agreed, nylon is next to useless when trying to remove buildup, especially laquer in your chamber. Brass all the way.
..Hey look, the system works.
Same..
We all know damn well that the CZ manual says "WD-40"
, and the tech assures me at wolverine supplies that the WD40 will neutralize the salts, thus why it's mentioned in the manual as the only thing you should clean it with with... however....not following my own advice, I use CLP "break free", rust never gets a chance to even think about building up. Never tried WD40, i'm just used to using CLP and i'm thinking the WD may be kinda thick.. but not sure. I love cleaning my firearms, it makes me happy to know i can take them all apart and inspect everything... and have it nice and clean when she's re-assembled, not to mention its good to look at the internal parts just for the sake of inspecting them for possible damage, after all... it's your face that's behind it when you pull the trigger.
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Another bore butter fan !
Another fan of bore butter !
ME TOO !
Been usin it for years on black powder horse pistols -
Put some down the hot bore and wipe it over the dirty pistol -
Put it away -
Take it out a year later -
NO RUST !
If your lazy like me - you can do it to a red rifle also !
Another fan of bore butter !
ME TOO !
Been usin it for years on black powder horse pistols -
Put some down the hot bore and wipe it over the dirty pistol -
Put it away -
Take it out a year later -
NO RUST !
If your lazy like me - you can do it to a red rifle also !
