CZ Shadow + Adjustable Rear Sight = Production legal

20.3. Aftermarket grips which match the profile of the OFM standard for
the approved handgun and/or the application of tape on grips (see
Appendix F4) is permitted, however, rubber sleeves are prohibited."


the handall rule is exactly the annoying part to me...i would put handall grips on all my glocks for a thicker grip..
 
mine was shooting more or less high with the stock one depending of the load used on particular day
A heavy bullet should print higher than a lighter one, all other things being equal. A heavier (slower moving) bullet won't exit until the gun is more into the recoil cycle. I've never really noticed the effect, but the theory is good.
 
I have not seen any rule that says you cannot modify a sight. It would be almost impossible to police, given the number of options.

-- L.
You cannot modify stock parts (and still remain production legal) and this includes sights. All you can do with sights is change them. That's not to say that you can't shoot your gun with modified parts like grip sleeves or milled slides, you just can't do it in production. (that's what standard class is for)

Once you've settled on a load and you still find that you're shooting high or low, the best solution is to install a shorter or taller front sight from Cz Custom. The rear sight on the Shadow gives a superior sight picture due to the large blade. The LPA is not like that. Front sights are an easy swap and quite a bit cheaper.
 
Hi all,

I'm saving up for a CZ Shadow so I can (finally) take my IPSC Black Badge course and compete. One of the biggest questions I had was about replacing the rear sight with an adjustable one. Eventually my travels took me to the IPSC Global Village, and I found an answer. I'm recording it here so others don't have to undergo the pain I did.

According to Vince Pinto, Appendix D4 of the IPSC Rulebook, section 20.2, allows sight replacement as long as the slide is not modified:

"20. Aftermarket parts, components and accessories are prohibited, except as
follows:

20.1. Aftermarket magazines are permitted, subject to 19.2 above.

20.2. Aftermarket open sights (see Rule 5.1.3.1) are permitted, provided
their installation and/or adjustment requires no alteration to the
handgun.

20.3. Aftermarket grips which match the profile of the OFM standard for
the approved handgun and/or the application of tape on grips (see
Appendix F4) is permitted, however, rubber sleeves are prohibited."

Therefore, I'll be adding that to my Shadow.

As a follow-up question, I'm curious if anyone has used the LPA sights available through CZCustom?

-- L.

I JUST switched from my M&P9 to a Shadow 2 weeks prior to the Barrie Provincials and the only thing I chaged was to aluminum checkered grips because of my small hands. My recoil spring, main spring and Comp Hammer did not arrive in time for the Provincials.

As mention by Viper, I saw no one with Adj. sights on their Shadow at the Barrie Provincials.

With WOLF ammo at 10+ yrds shoots right on top of my sights so it's a 6 o-clock hold for me

As mentioned earlier shoot it first without the adj sights. Don't go changing the sights to compensated for shooter error.... TRUST ME, if that is your intention, I've been there... 99.9999% it's not the gun... it's the shooter. Unless you plan to enter the relm of Bullseye competition.

One thing to keep in mind... if at anytime you happen to OR someone else knocks or bumps your Shadow near the sights (yes it can happen) expecially at a match.... are you going to have a time out to test the acurracy of your sights with a few test shots let alone be permitted????

But back to your original question... it is Production legal.
 
Actually modifying factory sights IS legal. You can trim front sights (even on fixed guns like the Beretta). The rules committee doesn't feel that altering sights is the same as altering the slide.
I was squaded with CZ shooters in Czech, they all (except Eeux) said their guns shot high. Talking to the CZ team shooters, same thing. The most common mistake people make when shooting is anticipating their shot and pushing their shots down. I wonder how many of the "shoot dead on" guns are suffering from that?
 
Disagree, I've seen far more Shadows that shoot high than shoot anything else. Mine included.

Make that two. I always thoght the gun was set up for IPSC with the tall A Zone on the target.

Slavex were you able to take enough off the FO front sight to get your gun to shoot POA or did you just replace the front sight?

Take Care

Bob
 
I ordered a 6.5mm front sight, and have a 7.5 on the way.
Its nice to not have to hold over on 4 inch clays at 100m but also not much help for up close plates or partial targets with small zones.
 
As mentioned earlier shoot it first without the adj sights. Don't go changing the sights to compensated for shooter error.... TRUST ME, if that is your intention, I've been there... 99.9999% it's not the gun... it's the shooter. Unless you plan to enter the relm of Bullseye competition.

In the past I found myself adjusting my sights to compensate for shooter error, I'll admit that. This time though, I've found myself interested in *easily* zeroing the pistol to a certain distance (say 25 yards), which would be a good balance for both short and long distance shots. All that said, thanks, I'm glad you brought that up - I needed to think about that.. plus your tip about Wolf and knocking the sights at a match are food for thought.

-- L.
 
Once you've settled on a load and you still find that you're shooting high or low, the best solution is to install a shorter or taller front sight from Cz Custom. The rear sight on the Shadow gives a superior sight picture due to the large blade. The LPA is not like that. Front sights are an easy swap and quite a bit cheaper.

I'm starting to think that is the way to go. My only "complaint" is the time a gunsmith with take to swap the front sight. Part of me would rather spend the money up front and eliminate the chance of having the slide elsewhere for a few weeks.. but then, I may just like the pistol as-in. I guess I still need some time to work out my fears and desires.

-- L.
 
I'm starting to think that is the way to go. My only "complaint" is the time a gunsmith with take to swap the front sight. Part of me would rather spend the money up front and eliminate the chance of having the slide elsewhere for a few weeks.. but then, I may just like the pistol as-in. I guess I still need some time to work out my fears and desires.

-- L.

You sure don't need a gunsmith to change out the front sight on a Shadow. You push out the roll pin and slide it out the sight. Slide the new sight in, install the roll pin and you are done.

Take Care

Bob
 
It's very easy to replace front sight, you can do it yourself in 20 minutes or less.
You need: 1) new sight; 2) roll pin punch and drill bit @ 2mm each; 3) small hammer.

CZ guys use Mayhew punches.
You punch pin holding front sight out, hammer sight out forward - towards muzzle.
Insert and hammer lightly new sight all the way in. Drill from left to right (left is where it says Shadow on slide). Reuse roll pin to secure new sight.
 
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