South African surplus 308?

All was available to us in Canada, except the Winchester. But not approved by NRCAN, so dealers selling it in the US.

Have you any idea why those various types of surplus were not approved for import? Surely the reasoning behind these decisions is a matter of public record?!

Perhaps I'll just call them and ask.
 
Have you any idea why those various types of surplus were not approved for import? Surely the reasoning behind these decisions is a matter of public record?!

Perhaps I'll just call them and ask.
Some were approved and removed due to the new fee system, some were never submitted for approval due to the delays involved.
 
If I am not mistaken, you would still have to go through NRCAN to have the ammunition approved for commercial sale................and it is not cheap, nor is it a sure thing to get approval.........

Remanufacturing rifle ammo would be a lot more labour intensive compared to reloading straight walled pistol cases. Brass has to be sorted by brand and trimmed. It is also harder to find once fired rifle brass in quantity.

So far, this does not sound too outrageous. Loading rifle ammo on a commercial press is not that hard. Re manufactured "sporting use" ammo should not be impossible to get a permit for. I am mildly optomistic so far. Cost, time with red tape, and time consuming manufacturing are all normal aspects of running a business. It would be factored into the price. Any other negatives?
 
So far, this does not sound too outrageous. Loading rifle ammo on a commercial press is not that hard. Re manufactured "sporting use" ammo should not be impossible to get a permit for. I am mildly optomistic so far. Cost, time with red tape, and time consuming manufacturing are all normal aspects of running a business. It would be factored into the price. Any other negatives?
I can share some small insight to this, as a business partner and myself in the process of applying for a commerical reloading permit and approval to sell remanufcuterd ammunition. I can assure you now this is not an easy nor fast process. We've completed ( if im not mistaken ) eight forms, and were still not 100% clear if there are more needed. The answers and responses we've received from the MNR and RCMP are vague to say the least. Be prepared to submit documentation on

1) your facility
2) ALL materials used
3) security of facility
4) Location - Zoning / Bylaw restrictions
5) MNR / RCMP testing ammunition ( fees and waiting times )
6) Plans, drawings, hazard studies, SOPs, ER plan, etc. would have to be submitted and reviewed by ERD prior to licensing.
 
I keep hearing about this outfit so now I gotta know: Who governs this mickey mouse club anyways? Who is in charge of these people? What can I as a taxpayer do to help get them all fired!!!???

Isn't the head of NRCAN Christian Paradis, P.C., M.P., Minister of Natural Resources?

He is an elected MP.

Should we call our MP and tell them to pick a fight with this MP?
 
Some were approved and removed due to the new fee system, some were never submitted for approval due to the delays involved.

Thanks,

Interesting set of procedures they have in place over there...

as far as you know has anyone attempted to submit the British Radway Green 7.62NATO to them?

The Brits can export the stuff, and i believe we can import from them...
 
Some were approved and removed due to the new fee system, some were never submitted for approval due to the delays involved.

What would the process be to get it reapproved or how does one send them a sample to test ? Is it done by the company ?

And what varies for military ammunition . anyone we can start writing letters to ?
 
I can share some small insight to this, as a business partner and myself in the process of applying for a commerical reloading permit and approval to sell remanufcuterd ammunition. I can assure you now this is not an easy nor fast process. We've completed ( if im not mistaken ) eight forms, and were still not 100% clear if there are more needed. The answers and responses we've received from the MNR and RCMP are vague to say the least.

I am glad to see that someone is going down this road. I would not want to go through all that work only to have to compete with someone else when margins are minimal to begin with. Perhaps it might be easier to get through some of the red tape in B.C. though. MNR in Ontario can be brutal. Keep us posted on your progress. Perhaps there's room for an East/West venture.
 
Isn't the head of NRCAN Christian Paradis, P.C., M.P., Minister of Natural Resources?

He is an elected MP.

Should we call our MP and tell them to pick a fight with this MP?

EXACTLY!!

Who do we apply pressure to?!! i am hopping mad about this.... someone just needs to point!!

Who is the best person to start calling?!
 
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