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I'm interested in taking a course with you guys, but I've heard a rumour that a student on an Adler course shot himself in the leg. Any truth to that?
 
I attended that actually and although it wasn't an Adler course, they ran a few courses of fire for the day. (collective fun shoot day) The gentleman in question actually had an ND while holstering into a thigh rig (bladetech I think it was). I have not heard anything of it until now as the person it happened to fully accepted responsibility as his own fault. It looked like it was simply a gear related issue, new firearm, new holster combination along with all the dangly (is that a word?) type gear hanging off. I can tell ya that after that there were more than a few that started taping up and/ or cutting away things that may be an issue after that. (I stopped wearing cut off finger gloves that fray apart long before because of a potential issue related to holstering)

I was more impressed with the response to the incident though. The guy from Alder had been a medic in the past as well as one other person there that had been a paramedic. How many people listen to the safety brief and immediate action plans during the initial phase of an organized fun shoot? I listen to it and I'm not gonna lie, I struggle not to yawn cause I've heard it before countless times. The round had barely gone off and there was a response. The line went cold and everyone secured gear and stepped away in a wtf just happened kind of way. Seemed that almost all of us had med kits on them as well as a couple kits placed near the firing line and the staging area and it took them very little time to treat it and have the guy transported. That was what I did remember, was that one of the protocols was not waiting for an ambulance but to meet it half way. Turns out the medics did a great job as the closest hospital just double checked the dressings and moved him on to the next hospital for final repair I guess you'd call it.

By the time they were gone off range area we were all back to the line pluggin away again,...albeit a lot more conscious of where and how our gear was placed.

Very smooth an professionally dealt with by all those in attendance and it speaks volumes for the firearms community in how we manage ourselves in a group setting. Safety is always a concern and always need to be followed or prepared for. This was a great example of cool and calm reaction to an ND incident that could have happened to someone off by themselves practicing out in their favorite range area or teaching friends about what we do on the range. Do we skip a safety briefing with those people too? Hell no, I give them the whole gambit before they touch one of my firearms then they practice it empty before we even consider doing it live. This incident just happened to take place in a setting where other people were around that had the conscious effort to make a plan before launching into a range day.

I've gone to one of the Adler courses since and it was the same, med and safety brief, bla bla bla and then into the course. The information is there at the start of every course we attend (well most of them anyways) we just have to listen.
 
Very interesting. I'm glad to hear the response was positive and effective. So this wasn't during a course? How experienced was the shooter?
 
DrakeriderCa said:
Very interesting. I'm glad to hear the response was positive and effective. So this wasn't during a course? How experienced was the shooter?
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I think it was at least 10 years worth or more. He did competition stuff for awhile as well too. Honestly I couldn't say more than that cause I never asked him. I've seen range violations when I was in the military that would make ya go cold at the thought of what could have happened from both experienced and inexperienced troopers. In the end we're all responsible for our own ass and have to take responsibility for it one way or another. lol that's the difference between a responsible gun owner and a criminal with an unregistered or stolen gun. We take the effort to be safe and learn and be prepared when they don't give 2 sh**s. lol and we get punished for trying to be responsible. Go figure.R:d:
 
This is a good time to state the obvious. Firearms are tools, the misuse of which can have consequences.

Think of it like your car. You take your car to the open track day at the strip to see what it can do. You sign the waver and mash the gas. At that point you've accepted that there is a level of danger in what your doing. If you are in some way negligent and crash its your fault. The track takes care of response and ensuring the environment is as safe as possible but at the end of the day you are your own person and if s**t happens its all yours. You have to remember when you pick up a firearm there is danger involved like so many other things in life so don't be ignorant of the realities of what your doing.

Personally I've trained with Max twice and you're getting top notch instruction and never have I felt unsafe. Frankly having an catastrophic ND on a course is miles better then having it when your just on the range, at least there is someone there to take care of you.
 
DrakeriderCa said:
Very interesting. I'm glad to hear the response was positive and effective. So this wasn't during a course? How experienced was the shooter?
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Yes that did happened at an event that a couple of our guys attended, lol and no it was not an Adler course.

However, it would not have made a difference if it was an Adler course, all of the safety and range issues were determined long before anyone even stepped onto the line. We never mentioned the incident out of respect for the person that caused the accidental discharge to himself. If he wants to tell people about it, great, go nuts, but we would not ridicule him for safety violations when this did not even come close to endangering anyone else. He was definitely not happy that 1: the incident took place, 2: that he was the instrument of it and 3: that he had to explain to the RCMP how he managed to touch one off into his leg while holstering.
He was an experienced shooter and had been for some time, so it can happen to anyone.

This is a good time to mention situational awareness.

This doesn't change the safety protocols that were enacted before or after the event and we at Adler do the same at all of our courses. Everyone knows where the med kits are, who is in charge if an incident happens and how we will deal with it.

Everyone out there who conducts firearms courses has similar protocols in place for incident management. (or should do, at the very least)

Yes, firearms are dangerous, but driving a car is more so (and more often catastrophic in equations), but I'll bet that many people don't have a med kit in their car. We would be foolish to believe that something like this "would never happen to us" so it behooves us to have something on the range to deal with a worst case incident.
There are some great personal med kits available online from some of the supporting dealers here on CGN and they should be a part of everyone's range bag regardless of the caliber, type, flavor, color, etc. I carry one on my kit and one in my bag. Nice, compact and less than $50 each. Well worth the investment.

Cheers,
-Max
 
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Adler Tactical Solutions said:
There are some great personal med kits available online from some of the supporting dealers here on CGN and they should be a part of everyone's range bag regardless of the caliber, type, flavor, color, etc. I carry one on my kit and one in my bag. Nice, compact and less than $50 each. Well worth the investment.

Cheers,
-Max
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Exactly, thats less then I spend on ammo during a range session.
 
Well, I'm certainly satisfied that the briefing, response and attitude were all professional. Trust me, I know how dangerous firearms can be, and I've seen plenty of unsafe actions on military, civilian and international ranges. I just wanted to hear about how it was handled and what was in place before and during the incident.

Thanks for the responses - I know that could be a touchy question, and I'm glad that answering it could be handled in a mature manner.
 
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