Flags on trap houses

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In thread in General Discussion there was some back and forth on this issue.

Every trap club I can recall, and that includes many across Canada and in the U.S., the presence of a flag on the trap house is a signal that someone is in the house and all guns are to be open and unloaded.

In pictures on the other thread the club has a red flag projecting horizontally, level with the top of the house as an indication the range is hot and shooting is permitted. Are any other clubs doing the same? Is this a rule required by the CFO?

It seems odd to me that a rule would be imposed that is opposite to the established practice at thousands of trap clubs across North America. Thoughts?
 
If you go anywhere in the world and see a red octagon you know no matter what language is on it that it means stop. Seems simple to me.

My guess is that the range in question uses the same signals on all their ranges for one set of blanket rules. From the pictures I saw on their website the traps are not regulation.

The problem I see is getting used to that and then going to a ATA club. Our club flys a red flag to signal unload NO shooting.

Not sure what to think?
 
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That's my thread and video.

They use same flags for all ranges, and are hardly holding trap events.

They don't want to confuse the people that just pay a day rate of $20. That's right!!!! You don't have to be a member, to shoot there. Amazing idea!

Mike
 
cptseawolf said:
That's my thread and video.

They use same flags for all ranges, and are hardly holding trap events.

They don't want to confuse the people that just pay a day rate of $20. That's right!!!! You don't have to be a member, to shoot there. Amazing idea!

Mike
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Non-member shooting is quite common at most trap clubs. At mine and the others I shoot at regularly in Ontario guests are welcome, in some places have to sign a waiver and typically pay a higher price for targets.

What I'm trying to discover is whether the practice of putting red flags on trap houses to show shooting is permitted is unique to this one club or is occurring elsewhere.
 
I have never seen a flag on a trap that was not there as an indicator that the range is closed or to initiate a cease fire. As a trap shooter, I know that some folks would not like that flag waving around on the house while you are shooting.

Small distraction, and backwards to everything that I currently know about safety flags and their meaning.
 
many years i use to shoot at a club that is no no longer there

they had a light in the back if the light was on the guy in the trap house was ready
the guy pushing the button called the range
if there was a problem light went out(turned off/or on in trap house) and he waved a flag till some one went forward and got him out
 
Claybuster said:
What I'm trying to discover is whether the practice of putting red flags on trap houses to show shooting is permitted is unique to this one club or is occurring elsewhere.
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I am a member of an Ontario club - we have a green flag that you put up when you're down in the house, otherwise no flag.

Hope this helps :)
 
What is the point of this? Different clubs means different rules. The club in question is not a trap club and opperates the trap field in the same manner as its rifle/handgun range. There are lots of guests at this club and they offer day passes for anyone of the street so it makes perfect sense to keep things simple! And I shoot trap here regularily and have never heard a single complaint. There is a large sign with the rules at each range which clearly explains how things work. Deal with it!
 
mlehtovaara said:
What is the point of this? Different clubs means different rules. The club in question is not a trap club and opperates the trap field in the same manner as its rifle/handgun range. There are lots of guests at this club and they offer day passes for anyone of the street so it makes perfect sense to keep things simple! And I shoot trap here regularily and have never heard a single complaint. There is a large sign with the rules at each range which clearly explains how things work. Deal with it!
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The reason that I started this thread in a separate forum was to find out whether this is a practice unique to Silverdale or whether it was in place at other clubs. That's the point.
 
re trap flags

Believe it or not the current rules as per our new fire arms laws and range inspections call for the flags to be yellow on traps houses when there is some one in the trap house. All guns are then to be open and unloaded. I belong to both the Vernon and Kelowna B.C. trap clubs and have made yellow flags to replace the red flags that used to be the norm. Where it is more confusing is under the new regs a red flag must be flown on a flag pole to show that the range is active, to be pulled down and a green flag run when the range is not active.
 
Duckshoot said:
Believe it or not the current rules as per our new fire arms laws and range inspections call for the flags to be yellow on traps houses when there is some one in the trap house. All guns are then to be open and unloaded. I belong to both the Vernon and Kelowna B.C. trap clubs and have made yellow flags to replace the red flags that used to be the norm. Where it is more confusing is under the new regs a red flag must be flown on a flag pole to show that the range is active, to be pulled down and a green flag run when the range is not active.
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I've seen the yellow flags too. I've also seen highway warning cones put on the top of trap houses when someone is refilling. What I haven't seen though is a flag on a house while shooting is in progress other than in the video at the one range.
 
You guys are hilarious. You now have 5 pages between 2 threads in 2 sections discussing flags at a club uv never been to, prob won't ever be to, and doesn't care about your flag anxiety.

Can't we all just shoot clay targets? (And get along)
 
To me, as soon as you see the flag, you make your guns safe because there is a problem and someone will prolly exit the Traphouse!!!! So this is very much a safety concern, another example of people making rules that know absolutely nothing of what they are about! These Trap safety rules are universal and go back to the days when the "puller" was behind the shooter and pulled a lever that connected to the machine in the traphouse, and he released the bird. Can't be any serious Trap shooters at this club, as they wouldn't stand for it!!!IMHO!
 
cptseawolf said:
You guys are hilarious. You now have 5 pages between 2 threads in 2 sections discussing flags at a club uv never been to, prob won't ever be to, and doesn't care about your flag anxiety.

Can't we all just shoot clay targets? (And get along)
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I am not sure what the other threads are about, but I would rather discuss safety issues which should be universal than spend too much time on a 'I want one so bad that I will buy a cheap one' thread.
 
How is it a safety issue? Green don't shoot. Red shoot.

Signs are posted everywhere. If you can't read, or listen to RSO's then I guess you wouldn't want to go there.

And nice attempt at a dig, maybe you can justify a $2000 gun used a handful of times a year but I sure can't.

I think you should spend more time offering useful, and relevant advice to new shooters to get them into the sport on a budget, and less time being rediculous.
 
cptseawolf said:
How is it a safety issue? Green don't shoot. Red shoot.
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Ya mean like green means stop and red means go:confused:

How about something simple like a flag on a trap house means, don't shoot? or if it is safe, take the flag down?

You are right about the other part. After watching the video and reading your comments on this thread, I think that the Baikal is for you
 
ben hunchak said:
So this is very much a safety concern, another example of people making rules that know absolutely nothing of what they are about! These Trap safety rules are universal and go back to the days when the "puller" was behind the shooter and pulled a lever that connected to the machine in the traphouse, and he released the bird. Can't be any serious Trap shooters at this club, as they wouldn't stand for it!!!IMHO!
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A) The whole idea is to have the same rules for the entire club! It is alot easier and safer if the rules are "universal" I agree. So why would they have different rules, with flags that have different meanings on different ranges in the same club?

B) Things change! Get used to it!

C) If you shoot trap you shoot the clays and don't cry about the flags or use them as excuses.

D) There are plenty of very good trap shooters that shoot at Silverdale. They come to get away from all the fudds with ridiculous rules and regulations that can't seem to relax and just have fun.

They let you load more than 1 round at a time, and you can even shoot with a tacticool shotty loaded up with all the black accessories you can put on your gun!

It's about having a good time!

Safe is safe!

The way you hang a flag, or the colour of the flag makes no difference!
 
Covey Ridge said:
Ya mean like green means stop and red means go:confused:

How about something simple like a flag on a trap house means, don't shoot? or if it is safe, take the flag down?

You are right about the other part. After watching the video and reading your comments on this thread, I think that the Baikal is for you
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What colour is the safety on every gun manufactured lately?

Red is dead! That is UNIVERSAL!

There are 3 clubs within 30 minutes from me and all of them use either coloured flags or lights to signify the range is either hot or cold! All of them use the same colours!

Red = Range is hot
Green = Range is safe
 
Hahahha.

Thanks guys for some other posts with logic.

Red is dead, danger, etc.

Anyways, you don't like the flags, don't go there. If u do come, ill be the guy having a ####load of fun with a lanber or sabatti $400 shotgun.

Mike
 
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