Kel-Tec Update Statement
- Thread starter Vault Distribution
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Some people just lack even the most basic understanding of the legislation. They fill in the space space left by their own ignorance with rampaging imagination. In case one does not know better, it is easier to blame it on someone else other than actually reading the legislation at one's own time!
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Some guys just never learn
Not being contrary Amigo and no offence, but I think that's just what the CFC has done all along for about 15 years or so is all...
Since when did a "FORUM" take precedence over our legislation? The "LOOK"? Please give your head a shake. Knee jerk opinions from armchair experts does not nor will it ever determine the classification of a firearm.
For instance the "LOOK" of the SIG PE 90 is just as military but lo and behold it is non-restricted in its 20" barrel version and you can take it hunting if your provincial regs allow it or you can run through the forest and shoot tree branches all day if you so wish and are safe about it. I don't recommend it but realistically you could.
Please think about what you say and consider the source of information before you accept it as gospel.
Krunch
More than a few of us have spoke to Vault on the phone already, if you still don't believe it than call Steve at Vault personally the number is on the website.
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Yeah all that sounds like a bunch of hooey. As already stated, the Swiss Arms rifle length series, the IMI Tavor, the FN FS2000 are ALL guns based on rifles currently serving with armed forces around the world, and yet we get them non restricted due to them having 18.5" or longer barrels.
The Kel Tec RFB in its US state, has an 18 inch barrel which would make it restricted, but from what I've read the RFB "Canada" version has an 18.5" barrel.
the ONLY thing they could do is classify it as prohibited because its too easily converted into full auto (and by too easily, I mean using all the resources at the RCMP for months at a time to make it double or something.....), OR restricted due to barrel or overall length...
I have READ the legislation, its pretty simple (albeit stupid). They cant classify something as restricted "just cuz". they would need another Order in Council.
The Kel Tec RFB in its US state, has an 18 inch barrel which would make it restricted, but from what I've read the RFB "Canada" version has an 18.5" barrel.
the ONLY thing they could do is classify it as prohibited because its too easily converted into full auto (and by too easily, I mean using all the resources at the RCMP for months at a time to make it double or something.....), OR restricted due to barrel or overall length...
I have READ the legislation, its pretty simple (albeit stupid). They cant classify something as restricted "just cuz". they would need another Order in Council.
......Fellows, that's the reason we need to pay attention to this:
Bill 580
They cannot freely restrict firearms, but they are trying to copy US style importation restriction. They cannot make it illegal, but they want to restrict importation by administrative means. By giving bureacrates the power to define "sporting purpose" and making the determination if a firarms is of "sporting" purpose, this will essentially give CBSA and RCMP the free hand to stop importation of ANY firearms - they can effectively allow the bureacrates to write "policy" without regulatioins.
This Biill 580 needs to be stopped.
Bill 580
They cannot freely restrict firearms, but they are trying to copy US style importation restriction. They cannot make it illegal, but they want to restrict importation by administrative means. By giving bureacrates the power to define "sporting purpose" and making the determination if a firarms is of "sporting" purpose, this will essentially give CBSA and RCMP the free hand to stop importation of ANY firearms - they can effectively allow the bureacrates to write "policy" without regulatioins.
This Biill 580 needs to be stopped.
I get all thata and I am not dumb I read what was satted by vault and kel-tec, I'v read that its was going to be non-restricted. But since I had read and up to date post on how it was to be restricted, even if I know there is a good chance its bs I just wanted a confirmation that nothing had change thats all.
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Why don't you call vault? or contact one of the dealers thats getting them in....OR READ what has already been posted. Its non -restricted. NUFF SAID.
As far as I've heard you can use surplus (mil spec) 7.62 in a .308 chambered gun just fine, like using .223 in a 5.56 chambered gun.
This is making me want to sell my USC/UMP conversion to get an RFB
ETA
in the other thread, its stated to be around 2500.
If you apply the .223 vs 5.56 logic then the .308 should be ok in the 7.62 not the other way around....however some 7.62 guns may not like heavy bullet .308 rounds (higher pressure)
