Need the help of AR guys (I know nothing)

[Jayph]

Like the title when it comes to AR-15 type rifles I am as green as they come I will be recieving a bonus in December and have narrowed it down to 3 possible things to get. My first restricted is on that list. I went through the entire Ar-15 pic thread and found what I would like. The pics below are rifles from members of this site and if you are upset that I borrowed your rifles pic please PM. It was the only way I could ask as I don't know what most of the items should be called

Things I need help with
1- for the rifle I want am I better to build from parts or buy a complete rifle and add the acc.?
2- What am I looking for as a cost to build a rifle with the specs below?
3- If I go with a complete rifle is there one I should consider? I found the RRA A4 Varmint from Questar and the Stag Arms 6R from Arms East is there any better start than those and which one would be better if I don't go the parts route?

My father use to own an AR so he will be able to help when I get the rifle (never got to handle it as he sold it when they became restricted) I also plan to read the manuel many times before I start shooting. I have 15 years shooting expierience and 10 years of owning firearms but all bolt guns. I will admit I am just doing a search as I am having a hard time spending cash on a rifle I can't shoot on my land and friends but I have wanted one since I seen photo's of dads. Plus it's a bonus cheque so I mean it was money I wasn't counting on anyways Iam also considering two other options aswell so there is no guarantee I will buy an AR but will apreciate all your help in my research trying to decide.

The pics below will have the items I want on my AR outlined with a paint program.

I like the grip/stock/picatinny rail for optics and the heavy bull barrel of this rifle

I like the forend of this rifle

And this looks great for off hand shooting

So how and where do I start?

Thanks in advance

Jason

Edit: If the main answer is build from parts is there any places to look besides the EE,Arms East, and Questar.

 

[Danimal247]

look up
magpul afg
magpul xtm
nill ar15 grips
spikes fake silencer

 

[CdnCombatMedic]

If you want different stocks, railed hand guards and pistol grips etc your better off to do a build. There is no sense buying a stock rifle and swapping out all those parts. Your rifles cost is going to get driven up. The lower receiver is very easy to do. There is a great guide at AR15 dot com. I used that to do my first. The upper I got built by Casey at TacOrd for I think 50.00. He did a great job. By doing a build you can also spread out the cost if that is a concern for you also. Spikes tactical lowers are fantastic, and on sale for 199.00 at Questar.

 

[Jayph]

look up
magpul afg
magpul xtm
nill ar15 grips
spikes fake silencer

Thank you very much. I am fine with just a heavy barrel I didn't realize it was a fake silencer.

 

[Danimal247]

Thank you very much. I am fine with just a heavy barrel I didn't realize it was a fake silencer.

it's possible that it's a heavy barrel, hard to tell from the pic but fake cans often give the look and I see photos of em quite often on here.

 

[Jayph]

If you want different stocks, railed hand guards and pistol grips etc your better off to do a build. There is no sense buying a stock rifle and swapping out all those parts. Your rifles cost is going to get driven up. The lower receiver is very easy to do. There is a great guide at AR15 dot com. I used that to do my first. The upper I got built by Casey at TacOrd for I think 50.00. He did a great job. By doing a build you can also spread out the cost if that is a concern for you also. Spikes tactical lowers are fantastic, and on sale for 199.00 at Questar.

I had a feeling that this was going to be the route most would recomend for the reason's you mentioned. I have faith that with instructions I could acomplish a build as Iam handy. I looked at the spikes tactical stuff but I just put a set of tires on both vehicles, brakes on the car, and a leupold on my hunting rifle so everything will have to wait for the bonus cheque and I don't imagine that they will still have any at that price come Dec. Thanks for the help.

 

[Onagoth]

it's possible that it's a heavy barrel, hard to tell from the pic but fake cans often give the look and I see photos of em quite often on here.

Based on the dimpling in the last 4 inches of the muzzle, I'd think it was a fake can

 

[Danimal247]

Based on the dimpling in the last 4 inches of the muzzle, I'd think it was a fake can

not always

 

[Onagoth]

Interesting...I kinda like the look of that

 

[Spyderfire1]

Try the guys at Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply in Calgary for most of this stuff. The Shortie AR in your first Post is one of his. I have one of thier rifles and they put a custom seriel # on it for me with customized fire control markings.
Good luck and have fun.