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Action shooting with a .22??
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Provisional rules to get feedback before the final rules are released. There will be changes to the released Provisional rules.
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Bob
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IPSC has already adopted an Air Soft Division haven't they?
You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding! Or are you calling a .22 class the "Air Soft Division"?
I can see it for a newcomer that wants to try a couple of club level matches for giggles and before investing in a lot of gear. But it should be limited to that and then it's time for the shooter to man up, or woman up, and get the proper gun and related stuff.
I LOVE my .22's but I fully agree that they don't belong in the mainstream of IPSC or IDPA
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I ####ing hope not.
Mall ninjas with 22's...and no regard for proper safety.
Someone needs to kick you in the ####ing nuts
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This is the second time someone posted about these shoots on Crown land.
Is it just me or is this totally retarded??????
How can this be safe or for that matter....SANE!
How can you be sure someone isn't going to just wander by into your line of fire. What do you use for a back stop??? What about insurance? What about an RO?
If you want to hold any type of 'action shooting' do it at the range.
Be smart and be safe.
John
Is it just me or is this totally retarded??????
How can this be safe or for that matter....SANE!
How can you be sure someone isn't going to just wander by into your line of fire. What do you use for a back stop??? What about insurance? What about an RO?
If you want to hold any type of 'action shooting' do it at the range.
Be smart and be safe.
John
IPSC has already adopted an Air Soft Division haven't they?
Nope. IPSC calls it "Action Air".
Here are the rules: http://www.ipsc.org/pdf/RulesAir.pdf
I gotta agree with you on this one Onagoth.
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yada yada yada
Just curious...but what was that little move at 54 seconds. Was that the "all clear" signal you usually give to your buddies at your "World of Warcraft" tournies (in your mothers basement) or were you checking the time because Mommy was having hotdog nite a 5pm...and you didn't want to be late for dinner?
I would hope & push that the .22 rimfire course would be run as a seperate match and Not together with centerfire pistols. But if we are to get more people involved in shooting, A steel challenge rimfire match with both 10/22 & pistols would be great for young & old and new shooters to the sport that are on a budget. There is nothing wrong with getting trigger time on a rimfire. ammo cost would be under $8 for a match or 100 rounds and everyone can afford that. The sport will grow and we can get new people into shooting in general..
nice to here, but no one is doing it in other part of this country and that sucks.
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I f**king hope not.
Mall ninjas with 22's...and no regard for proper safety.
Someone needs to kick you in the f**king nuts
We are our own worst enemies. Why make fun of the guy Quigley? He is a member of my gun club and shoots IDPA. He just wants to have fun like the rest of us. May not be your style of fun but no need for these types of comments. He helped me set up some stages at my indoor club yesterday and we had a blast.
I could give a rats ass about the style...he needs a lesson in safety. It's idiots like this that will hurt themselves (or someone else) and f**k it up for the rest of us.
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Well then he should know better.
That video shows a disaster waiting to happen. Just a matter of time before they shoot each other or someone just passing by.
Now that I know Mr. Danimal yada yada yada is a member of your club there is even less excuse. If he wants to have some kind of .22 tactifool fun then organise it properly and SAFELY on the Range.
John
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I agree with BROCOLT. “There is nothing wrong with getting trigger time on a rimfire”.
I think .22 matches are a great way to introduce people to the shooting sports. It is low recoil, low cost, and little noise. I also believe they are a great training tool for IPSC, USPSA and PPC for the before mentioned reasons. I have a .22 kit for my Edge and that is predominately what I shoot. Using the .22 top end on my Edge I am developing the same neural pathways, coordination, muscle memory, transitioning and target acquisition skills as I would be using a .40. The only real difference is your lack of practice with recoil control. Personally I find shooting the .22 pistols very similar to shooting an open gun (except for the muzzle blast of course) and would have no problems if people were to shoot level I matches with their .22 pistols (or rifles) on my squad. I makes no difference to me what other people choose to shoot. If it gets more people out on the ranges and pulling triggers I am all for it! We need more people in the shooting sports. Look around at your next range event and see how many shooters are under 35 - 40 years of age; I’d bet a lot more are over 40 than under. We have lost a generation of shooters to liberalized/prejudicial views and we better work hard to get them back or we are all going to suffer from a general population who fear guns and believe firearms should only be processed by those in uniform. I once met an aboriginal leader and when I brought up the discussion of prejudice his words to me were, “If you dislike me, my views or my skin color come and spend a week at my house.” I thought that statement was quite profound and I strongly agree with his chosen methodology. If more people were on the range pulling triggers we, the gun owning population of Canada, would have more support so that when registry votes in the House come up they will be defeated. We should be encouraging all shooting, not eliminating people from the sport because We should be encouraging all shooting, not eliminating people from the sport because hegemonic masculinity precludes the use of mouse guns!
It has been my experience that when people get interested in shooting starting out with the .22’s they get hooked on the shooting sports; it’s cheap! (that’s how I got the shooting bug) When people start out on centerfire they think a lot about the price. It is hard to justify the cost initially. (After a year or two shooting it seems like it is hard to stop the spending on the shooting sports!)
Mike Burrell (for those who don’t recognize the name he is the Canadian IPSC Standard Champion and has been for a long time) once told me he had a .22 Ruger Rifle that he shot a couple hundred rounds out of every weekend when he was a kid at his cabin and that what got him into IPSC. He grew to like shooting as fast and accurately as he could. Just imagine if he had to started out with a 9mm or a .40. Could he have afforded it? Would it have pushed him out of shooting? To those reading this post; What did you start shooting with? .22? Probably!
I think .22 matches are a great way to introduce people to the shooting sports. It is low recoil, low cost, and little noise. I also believe they are a great training tool for IPSC, USPSA and PPC for the before mentioned reasons. I have a .22 kit for my Edge and that is predominately what I shoot. Using the .22 top end on my Edge I am developing the same neural pathways, coordination, muscle memory, transitioning and target acquisition skills as I would be using a .40. The only real difference is your lack of practice with recoil control. Personally I find shooting the .22 pistols very similar to shooting an open gun (except for the muzzle blast of course) and would have no problems if people were to shoot level I matches with their .22 pistols (or rifles) on my squad. I makes no difference to me what other people choose to shoot. If it gets more people out on the ranges and pulling triggers I am all for it! We need more people in the shooting sports. Look around at your next range event and see how many shooters are under 35 - 40 years of age; I’d bet a lot more are over 40 than under. We have lost a generation of shooters to liberalized/prejudicial views and we better work hard to get them back or we are all going to suffer from a general population who fear guns and believe firearms should only be processed by those in uniform. I once met an aboriginal leader and when I brought up the discussion of prejudice his words to me were, “If you dislike me, my views or my skin color come and spend a week at my house.” I thought that statement was quite profound and I strongly agree with his chosen methodology. If more people were on the range pulling triggers we, the gun owning population of Canada, would have more support so that when registry votes in the House come up they will be defeated. We should be encouraging all shooting, not eliminating people from the sport because We should be encouraging all shooting, not eliminating people from the sport because hegemonic masculinity precludes the use of mouse guns!
It has been my experience that when people get interested in shooting starting out with the .22’s they get hooked on the shooting sports; it’s cheap! (that’s how I got the shooting bug) When people start out on centerfire they think a lot about the price. It is hard to justify the cost initially. (After a year or two shooting it seems like it is hard to stop the spending on the shooting sports!)
Mike Burrell (for those who don’t recognize the name he is the Canadian IPSC Standard Champion and has been for a long time) once told me he had a .22 Ruger Rifle that he shot a couple hundred rounds out of every weekend when he was a kid at his cabin and that what got him into IPSC. He grew to like shooting as fast and accurately as he could. Just imagine if he had to started out with a 9mm or a .40. Could he have afforded it? Would it have pushed him out of shooting? To those reading this post; What did you start shooting with? .22? Probably!
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No one is saying there is anything wrong with rimfire events. The issue arises when there is an attempt to incorporate them into an IDPA or IPSC match. .22 does not fit in either as part of a regular match.
As has been pointed out IDPA is based on shooting using common service/concealed carry firearms that an individual might choose for defence.
IPSC is based on 3 concepts - accuracy, speed and Power.
.22 rimfire is an excellent training tool and I often advise new shooters to make a .22 their first purchase. As Moike has pointed out the reduced cost results in a lot more time behind the sights.
BUT....if .22 action shooting is the goal then it should be developed apart from the established disciplines. Just has been done by Canuck44 and his crew with idpa.
If all goes as planned I hope to put together a rimfire action match either this winter or next spring - depending on how much snow we get this winter.
And that is my advice to anyone with an interest in rimfire action shooting...quit whining that no one is organising it in your area - do it yourself. Odds are once you get the ball rolling more people will pitch in to help.
And if you do decide to organise something don't be a tactifool - do it right, reserve the range and shoot in a safe controlled environment.
John
As has been pointed out IDPA is based on shooting using common service/concealed carry firearms that an individual might choose for defence.
IPSC is based on 3 concepts - accuracy, speed and Power.
.22 rimfire is an excellent training tool and I often advise new shooters to make a .22 their first purchase. As Moike has pointed out the reduced cost results in a lot more time behind the sights.
BUT....if .22 action shooting is the goal then it should be developed apart from the established disciplines. Just has been done by Canuck44 and his crew with idpa.
If all goes as planned I hope to put together a rimfire action match either this winter or next spring - depending on how much snow we get this winter.
And that is my advice to anyone with an interest in rimfire action shooting...quit whining that no one is organising it in your area - do it yourself. Odds are once you get the ball rolling more people will pitch in to help.
And if you do decide to organise something don't be a tactifool - do it right, reserve the range and shoot in a safe controlled environment.
John
