How good is the Rem 597?
- Thread starter y2k
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Well it would seem to me that people ask questions from people who own them so that they can be informed about others experiences. Tips tricks,advice,etc. Ergo the necessity and purpose behind forums like CGN and rimfirecentral .com.
Perhaps first hand knowledge IS best since all guns are individuals. Mine was not a typical 597 to my understanding.
BUT,I'm not going to go out and by all semi auto 22 models so I can compare them with each other nor do I know someone who has 1 of each model. At some point you need. To factor in outsider advice to formulate your own conclusions.
For instance my buddy had a car.
Was it a nice looking car? Ya.
Did it get good milage? Ya.
Did it visit the shop more than the street? Ya...
Is this a common problem? Yes!
Would I buy one and take my chances? Probably not.
Or how about this?, My buddy loaded a 3 1/2 12ga slug into his full choke 3"chamberd pump action and blew half his face off. Gonna try it to see if its true?
Same applies here.
There is a difference between opinion and facts and it depends to what ends you are going to use the information obtained. Perhaps the OP don't actually give 2 bitts about this. Maybe he is obtaining a sadistic pleasure from watching the amusing circus of 597 vs 10/22.
For the record I have never owned or fired a Rem 700 but would have serious reservations about owning one.
As I stated in my previous post "Reading a reveiw of a firearm may help you make a desision whether or not you want to buy the firearm
I base my opinions on fact , and yes I do go out and buy guns to try them and no I dont go buy vehicals because my buddy has one ,I would test drive them first .
The post you made with the description (#30) tells me that you bought a gun that had some rust in it from a store that claimed to have had a flood, a peined breach from people dry fireing it in the store, and a burr on the crown ( could have been from the factory , could have being droped in the store who knows )
most of the other issues seen to be somewhat the norm with the low priced 22's ,gritty triggers , flimsy stocks,poor extraction....etc..... why do you think there are so many aftermarket part's out there .....to better the substanderd products that all the companys are now sending us.
All is that I am saying It gets old real fast to hear my buddys uncle's cusens freind had that rifle and he said it was crap and now everyone is an expert on the issue's .
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- Ottawa origanally Muskoka
Not really every ones thing to rattle off 30rds
- Location
- Ottawa origanally Muskoka
I hear the buddys, uncles neibours....and am agreement with people who come off as experts while doing so. Except Mwjones has second hand experience with said 597s mods and clearly stated the basics,truth and first hand on other 22s he listed as alternative and comparisons. I am said "buddy"and what was laid forth was my personal experiences with the 597 and Remington/Epps warranty services.
I know most cheap 22s have some issues. I simply post what was necessary to bring said rifle up to snuff and without expensive aftermarket parts.
I get offended when It comes to the legitimacy of my experiences with the subject. I put it out there as one mans story to be counted as part of a collective. Not 597 absolution.
Ps your test drive won't tell you what happens 1000km down the road or when your extractor flies away after 2 months use.
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- Ottawa origanally Muskoka
My point. I simply don accept being disrespected. My intent was to express not argue.
its the internet what else would you expect
There was No intent to disrespect anyone in my post , My original post (#18)was befor you even came along , you were the one that came in swinging #33.
anyhow Water under the bridge ,agree to disagree whatever
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No just handled one at a gun store. Its a 597 for the Tacticool market. I don't know what its called by Remington but the rem web site should have it. Maybe IM_Lugger will post some?
NOTE just came back from Remington.com. It is a; 597 VTR A-Tacs
No I seem to remember a reveiw of the tactical 22s on the market a couple years ago. Reminton,Rugger and.....Winchester? Each had one and of them all the winchester? Was basically an identical copy of an AR scaled down.
NOTE just came back from Remington.com. It is a; 597 VTR A-Tacs
No I seem to remember a reveiw of the tactical 22s on the market a couple years ago. Reminton,Rugger and.....Winchester? Each had one and of them all the winchester? Was basically an identical copy of an AR scaled down.
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I bought a base poly stock $170 597 about a month ago. I had done some research and was aware of some of the issues. I bought it based on:
- price (obviously)
- ease of takedown/cleaning
(There's a ton of videos on youtube. I watched them for the 597, 10/22, Savage, Marlin etc. By far the 597 seemed the easiest to take apart and put back together...and so far my experience has been that it is quite simple.)
- overall reputation
In addition to the included 10rnd mag, I bought a 30rnd Remington mag. Here are the results. I took it to the range on the first day having done nothing other than running a patch down the bore to ensure it was unubstructed and not filled with grease.
- Both mags were stiff. I could only get about 8/10 and 20/30 in the mags. I hadabout 10% fail to feed from about 500 rnds. Groupings were decent at both 25 and 50 yards. About 5 fail to fire...not all the ammo was great.
- On the second day, I had given the gun a thorough cleaning and lube and had done the same to the mags. I also polished up the feed end of the 30 rnd mag.
- I continued to have fail to feed from the 30 rnd mag but the 10 rnd functioned flawlessly. The gun was great and chewed through about 4 different types of ammo. Still about 1-2% fail to fire but I will again attribute that to the ammo. Groupings continued to be decent...whenever they weren't I'm willing to blame myself, not the gun.
Overall I'm pretty satisfied given the price I paid. It's a back-up gun and my first semi. I have no complaints and would recommend it. I would (as others have done) recommend watching 597 vids on youtube and following the troubleshooting and tweaking threads on the rimfirecentral forum.
I bought a base poly stock $170 597 about a month ago. I had done some research and was aware of some of the issues. I bought it based on:
- price (obviously)
- ease of takedown/cleaning
(There's a ton of videos on youtube. I watched them for the 597, 10/22, Savage, Marlin etc. By far the 597 seemed the easiest to take apart and put back together...and so far my experience has been that it is quite simple.)
- overall reputation
In addition to the included 10rnd mag, I bought a 30rnd Remington mag. Here are the results. I took it to the range on the first day having done nothing other than running a patch down the bore to ensure it was unubstructed and not filled with grease.
- Both mags were stiff. I could only get about 8/10 and 20/30 in the mags. I hadabout 10% fail to feed from about 500 rnds. Groupings were decent at both 25 and 50 yards. About 5 fail to fire...not all the ammo was great.
- On the second day, I had given the gun a thorough cleaning and lube and had done the same to the mags. I also polished up the feed end of the 30 rnd mag.
- I continued to have fail to feed from the 30 rnd mag but the 10 rnd functioned flawlessly. The gun was great and chewed through about 4 different types of ammo. Still about 1-2% fail to fire but I will again attribute that to the ammo. Groupings continued to be decent...whenever they weren't I'm willing to blame myself, not the gun.
Overall I'm pretty satisfied given the price I paid. It's a back-up gun and my first semi. I have no complaints and would recommend it. I would (as others have done) recommend watching 597 vids on youtube and following the troubleshooting and tweaking threads on the rimfirecentral forum.
