What type of Reflex/Red dot to get for a CZ858 ?
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Does anyone know were you can even buy one of the OK red dot reflex sights ? I have thought about modeling my CZ858 to the same way that the Czech special forces have their VZ58 set up. I have scene several pics of Czech special forces using their VZ58, and they are usually all done up with Black Furniture and a OKreflex/redot.
I have never even scene a place that sells the OK Redot/Reflex so I don't know were to get them or how much they cost. If they are something like $400 then I would go a different route, but I am trying to keep within my budget of about $250, and if the OKRedot was available for that price, in Canada, then I might try to get one of them.
I have never even scene a place that sells the OK Redot/Reflex so I don't know were to get them or how much they cost. If they are something like $400 then I would go a different route, but I am trying to keep within my budget of about $250, and if the OKRedot was available for that price, in Canada, then I might try to get one of them.
PerversPépère
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I only have experience with an eotech. And I love it. And everyone that has shot it loves it. 1 moa is really important for some precision 200 and beyond. The ability to change the reticle intensity by a wide margin is important in hunting application especially morning and evening. I don't know how the lower value ones are in that regard but could be the same. I haven't really researched the fore stock type mount lately and its ability to hold zero but I can say the mount that attaches at the rear sight has been rock solid for me.
The two eyes open target acquisition is just amazing. You can see your entire target, logs that they might jump over, bush that they may be about to enter, other animal that they may come into sight line. Just night and day from irons. Guess that's why the military might use it red dots.
For deer hunting this is quite the package. And the cool factor.. Is fun.
The thing that really sold me was the 1 moa, and the durability, and resale value.
Oh ya one more thing. As you turn up the brightness in bright conditions as I would assume on all red dots the moa increases. That right there would take the micro at 4 moa off the list. Although I really like its look and compactness
Hope that helps
The two eyes open target acquisition is just amazing. You can see your entire target, logs that they might jump over, bush that they may be about to enter, other animal that they may come into sight line. Just night and day from irons. Guess that's why the military might use it red dots.
For deer hunting this is quite the package. And the cool factor.. Is fun. The thing that really sold me was the 1 moa, and the durability, and resale value.
Oh ya one more thing. As you turn up the brightness in bright conditions as I would assume on all red dots the moa increases. That right there would take the micro at 4 moa off the list. Although I really like its look and compactness
Hope that helps
Clobbersauras
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Waaay out west.
My current set up:
Aimpoint Micro
NEA Upper Hand Guard - had to file the crap out of it to get it to fit.
Fab Defense Lower hand Guard - Wobbly! I have to figure out how to secure it.
Cadex Hand Stop - I use it in the reverse position to give me something to apply pressure to and keep my hand farther out on the rifle. I put a couple hundred rounds through this set up on the weekend and it works great. Control is excellent.
Oh, I also dremel tooled the front sight. I made the circular front sight into "ears" so that it does not obscure my field of view so much.
I quite like this set up though I really hate having to remove the optic every time I clean it. Haven't tested if it goes back to zero yet.
Aimpoint Micro
NEA Upper Hand Guard - had to file the crap out of it to get it to fit.
Fab Defense Lower hand Guard - Wobbly! I have to figure out how to secure it.
Cadex Hand Stop - I use it in the reverse position to give me something to apply pressure to and keep my hand farther out on the rifle. I put a couple hundred rounds through this set up on the weekend and it works great. Control is excellent.
Oh, I also dremel tooled the front sight. I made the circular front sight into "ears" so that it does not obscure my field of view so much.
I quite like this set up though I really hate having to remove the optic every time I clean it. Haven't tested if it goes back to zero yet.
Clobbersauras
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Waaay out west.
It wouldn't fit all the way down at first. So I filed a bit off, then
I pounded it on. But then it makes removal by hand impossible, even when it's hot. I had to use a big a$$ screw driver to remove it which mars up the receiver.
So I filed it where needed. It till fits nice and tight but I don't have to use a friggen pry bar to get it off.
Sounds like you've got one of the higher gas blocks. It interferes at the front and doesn't allow the rail to "hinge" down into place.
My second 858 has that gas block. Rather than modify the rail I took material off the top of the gas block. That's an area where you can make up any errors in grinding by using the rail set screw.
Is this on you Dlask re-barreled baby?My current set up:
Aimpoint Micro
NEA Upper Hand Guard - had to file the crap out of it to get it to fit.
Fab Defense Lower hand Guard - Wobbly! I have to figure out how to secure it.
Cadex Hand Stop - I use it in the reverse position to give me something to apply pressure to and keep my hand farther out on the rifle. I put a couple hundred rounds through this set up on the weekend and it works great. Control is excellent.
Oh, I also dremel tooled the front sight. I made the circular front sight into "ears" so that it does not obscure my field of view so much.
I quite like this set up though I really hate having to remove the optic every time I clean it. Haven't tested if it goes back to zero yet.
That sucks that you had to file it. Also it would be nice to know were you did have to remove the excess material.
Why didn't you just get a NEA lower also to get rid of the wobble on the fab lower handguard?
I like that idea of chopping off the ear's cuz with the front post and the optic I also find the field of view to be really obscured also.
Clobbersauras
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Waaay out west.
Yep!
I had to file it on the insides of the mount where it slides over the rear sight base.
To be honest I like the fab lower. It's light and seems fairly robust.
I'll see if I can post a pic later.
If you're going to be hunting in low light, try to get a sight that is
A: as close to MOA as possible,
and B: will go very, very dim, otherwise it WILL mess with your night vision.
A green dot may be better in low light, but I have no experience with them and so can't really comment on that...
I have a $70 simmons with about a 4-5 MOA dot and 11 brightness settings that co-witnesses and I was really happy with, until hunting season, when I noticed the aforementioned problem.
A: as close to MOA as possible,
and B: will go very, very dim, otherwise it WILL mess with your night vision.
A green dot may be better in low light, but I have no experience with them and so can't really comment on that...
I have a $70 simmons with about a 4-5 MOA dot and 11 brightness settings that co-witnesses and I was really happy with, until hunting season, when I noticed the aforementioned problem.
X2 on this one......
Not with the factory VZ sights, it won't.
It will co-witness if you use the NEA barrel clamp and railed stock adaptor to mount AR backup sights.
what about this? http://interammo.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21_30&products_id=56.
That is the red dots I was looking at.. the price seems decent and the reviews of the other posp scopes seems mostly positive... I used the search function through the forums for interammo or posp and didn't come up with anything here though.
I'm really considering that one as well. I'm just not sure if it will fit on my NEA railed upper h/g.....
