Home Defense W/ Restricted

Don't believe everything you read. There are a lot of anti LEs frequenting CGN.
As long as it's reasonable to believe you were in fear for your life and/or that of your family, and had no practical alternative, you won't be convicted. Charged is another matter, and isn't at the direction of police in such high profile cases, but typically comes from prosecutors. Their decision to lay charges is generally politically motivated, as they try to deter vigilatism. Remember, for every guy that smokes an armed intruder and isn't charged, there are two dozen retards that interpret it as meaning packing heat on the bus is now ok.
When in doubt, it's always better to be judged by twelve...
 
DILLIGAF said:
I got my handgun in a safe on my nightstand.... It get unlocked every night...

I wont think twice about sending someone 6ft under if they enter my house at night...

I will deal with the rest after... My Kids come first... and PTSD comes 2nd ...



sureshot66 Dead Men Tell No Tales...
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I know Pierre Trudeau once said,"what goes on in the bedrooms of consenting Adults was not the business of the Government." What you are saying might be a little different and just might peek their interest in this open forum which is likely being scrutinze by the Government as you speak.
 
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Winchester-1897 said:
I know Pierre Trudeau once said,"what goes on in the bedrooms of consenting Adults was not the business of the Government." What you are saying might be a little different and just might peek their interest in this open forum which is likely being scrutinze by the Government as you speak.
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I dont think he cares, and personally I dont either!

I refuse to ask permission from the government or police to protect my life or my families!

I refuse to let some politician tell me what I can and cannot due to accomplish that goal!

I'll take my chances with a jury if it ever comes down to it!

Police, and security guards are allowed to carry guns in public for #### sakes, but I cant have a gun specifically for protection in my own home?

This is simply a travesty of our legal system!

My right to defend myself with a force equal to the threat is compromised by the Firearms Act!

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6!
 
TacticallySharp said:
I hear you guys when you say the story would be straight but look at the law:
34. (1) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted without having provoked the assault is justified in repelling force by force if the force he uses is not intended to cause death or grievous bodily harm and is no more than is necessary to enable him to defend himself.
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Yes, but when using deadly force (i.e. shooting the guy), you need to fear for your life, otherwise you are using excessive force. If yours is the only story, it's much harder for the crown to prove otherwise. If, however, the other guy is still alive, it's really easy for him to cut a deal with the crown in exchange for testifying against you.
 
mlehtovaara said:
I dont think he cares, and personally I dont either!

I refuse to ask permission from the government or police to protect my life or my families!

I refuse to let some politician tell me what I can and cannot due to accomplish that goal!

I'll take my chances with a jury if it ever comes down to it!

Police, and security guards are allowed to carry guns in public for f**k sakes, but I cant have a gun specifically for protection in my own home?

This is simply a travesty of our legal system!

My right to defend myself with a force equal to the threat is compromised by the Firearms Act!

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6!
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I can see you are quite passionate about you're right to defend yourself and your Family as many here are. I guess most of us don't want to make a case for the Crown in a Public Forum in the event it occurs.
 
Winchester-1897 said:
I can see you are quite passionate about you're right to defend yourself and your Family as many here are. I guess most of us don't want to make a case for the Crown in a Public Forum in the event it occurs.
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I don't think any of what I said could really be proof of anything other than the fact that I am prepared to use deadly force if my life is threatened. Nothing illegal there!

I do agree that admitting to leaving your safe unlocked at night would be silly though!
 
Its not unsafe storage... lol... But after what happened to the guys in Burton, I wont go outside with my shotgun even if unloaded...
 
Grizzlypeg said:
I would also suggest a seriously impenetrable door on a safe room in which you can retreat and retrieve the firearm would be a good idea. Even better if that is your bedroom so you are buying yourself time.
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If you had an inpenetrable door and where behind it, unless you had a family memeber on the other side in danger, the minute you left you'd be liable to be charged for shooting the intruder because behind the door your life wasn't in danger. You can protect yourself but not your property. BS.........
 
red magnum said:
It might sound harsh but, shoot to kill don't maim them. If they are dead then there is only one side of the story.
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WRONG. If your life (or the life of those under your protection) is in danger by an attacker, You'd shoot to STOP an attack, and stop shooting when the attack is repulsed. If you EVER tell the cops you were 'shooting to kill'... wow... good luck!
 
As much as I'd like to just grab my shotgun in the event of a home intrusion, I'd rather not... because if I do, I'll either be harassed by the courts, go to jail, or lose my guns and my gun license. Or all of the above. Unfortunately people have been arrested for a lot less than that here in Canada.

Good news is I think home invasions are pretty rare in my neck of the woods.
They're more likely to break in when nobody's around...
 
nate18 said:
technically they can still get you for loading and discharging a restricted firearm outside of an approved range. whether or not i give a s**t about that when something is about to go down in my house is something i will decide upon when that time comes, and hopefully it never will.
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so use a long gun... :eek:

There is allot of what ifs.. but when it comes down to it not worth killing someone over stuff.. but if they still came at me and I was armed ect id consider it a threat to life
 
smartbomb said:
As much as I'd like to just grab my shotgun in the event of a home intrusion, I'd rather not... because if I do, I'll either be harassed by the courts, go to jail, or lose my guns and my gun license. Or all of the above. Unfortunately people have been arrested for a lot less than that here in Canada.

Good news is I think home invasions are pretty rare in my neck of the woods.
They're more likely to break in when nobody's around...
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So you grab a bat and run out only to be greeted by some punk with a sawed-off. I hear what you are saying but it gets back to being able to best protect your family and yourself. A concept the decision makers refuse to grasp.
 
where I grew up, they told you .... just make sure that you fire at least 2 shots, and make sure that one, is thru the ceiling.

When the police arrive, they can see that you obviously fired a warning shot first.
 
The_Sicilian said:
So you grab a bat and run out only to be greeted by some punk with a sawed-off. I hear what you are saying but it gets back to being able to best protect your family and yourself. A concept the decision makers refuse to grasp.
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Well, that's not my fault is it? I fear the law more than the criminal; you can blame our country for that. So what would I do in that situation? Who knows.
We're defenseless, 'nuff said. You can talk tough all you want right now, but fact of the matter is... if you kill someone in this country (even if in self-defense),
you go to jail, and you lose your gun rights. If you own a HUGE collection of guns... then you lose that too, and you'll never get them back.
 
haha49 said:
but when it comes down to it not worth killing someone over stuff..
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Guess you don't like your stuff that much :), but criminals are certainly willing to kill innocent people for their stuff. Turn about is fair play no? :stirthepot2:

Sadly though, it is threads like this that keep giving ammo to the anti's.
 
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