How come Leupold isn't supporting Canadian merchants by providing them with product at a price that allows them to sell competitively? There's no way a $1200 Mark 4 should sell for $2400 here. How's that any different than a VXII that sells for $100 more here than in the states?
Leupold Lifetime warranty changes for Canada.
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MapleSugar
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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I refuse to buy Leupold when no Canadian retailer matches the American prices and our dollar is nearly on par.
It doesn't cost an extra $120 to import a f**king 6x42mm LR.
It doesn't cost an extra $120 to import a f**king 6x42mm LR.
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
Bingo, we have a winner. This way Korth doesn't need to adjust their prices for the dollar being on par. The same was done with car and ATV manufacturers a few years back when the CDN $ started climbing. This has nothing to do with warranty, and who says they aren't being payed properly for their warranty work?
Ever wonder why no one from Korth has ever chimed in on these threads? They don't have an argument, just hiding behind supposed import legalities. What about the scopes that were imported illegally prior to Nov.1,2010? They get a pardon?
What surprises me is that Leupold is backing them on this. Apparently the Canadian market isn't big enough to matter.
This rings true for all facets of firearms and accessories including ammo.
Our entire country buys less firearms and accessories than the 1 state of Texas. Add to that now 49 other states and see where we rate on the list of volume.
The same reason Wally World can sell an item at a lower price than the Mom & Pop Shop down the road.....it is pure volume.
I bought 2 of my 3 NF BR Scopes out of the US with all paperwork, taxes paid etc... at a savings of about $700 (combined) over buying from Canadian Merchants. Do I feel bad about saving myself $700 buying from a US retailer? Not a Fukcen chance!!!!
I'll buy all those used cheap leupold's I have been working in the firearm industry for 30yrs and have probably sold 10,000 plus leupold's and seen that many more have never had to send one in for warranty do to manufacture defects and I have seen some very old scopes have sent a few in because someone thought they were scope tecks.
Taxes, duty and paperwork on the Canadian side have nothing to do with the point at hand. In order to export the scope from the US, you have to have an export licence from the US State Department. In some cases, you have to do the import paperwork from DFAIT to bring it in as well. You see, the reason why there are additional costs which you don't see right now is that the legal dealer has to deal with the whole export process, pay someone to process the paperwork, pay when the shipment is held at warehouse in Canada and then received. That is what a legal dealer has to do. When you get a buddy to send one across that he got at Cabellas...you are likely going to get a cheaper price because you don't have to deal with any of the legal requirements that a dealer does.
Purchasing will never be leveled when at the end of the day we have this thing called the border which requires paperwork on both sides to get a legal shipment across the border.
That is what the point is. If you buy a grey market scope, and it was not exported and imported properly into Canada, you don't get a warranty. Right now, there is no way to get a leupold scope into Canada legally without the proper export paperwork.
None of the Nightforce line can be exported from the US without an export permit....did you get an export licence or is the paperwork you mentioned the Canadian side of the house?
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Just by a Zeiss then you would say, Warranty?? who needs that!!!
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- New Scotland
Actually, you might want to double check with Korth on that. My understanding is that only scopes imopirted by Korth will be warrantied through the Korth facility. Yours will have to be sent to the US, complete with more paperwork and permits, should you need warranty work completed. Enjoy.
Korth is Korth, they dance to the beat of their own drum, they deal with the retailers they want to and send the rest packing. Probably one of the best examples in this country of how not to do business. Leupold sales would triple if the line were in the hands of someone much more capable customer service wise than the son who runs it, taking over from the father, who was dynomite by the way. Business is droping and will drop some more with this latest move, and many retailers are looking at dropping the line altogether and switching to minox. all in my humble opinion.
lejarretnoir
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Let me know when you want to get rid of that Mark 4. Since I'm not ranging anything 1/4MOA works for me.
They do have M5 Target Knobs which is in 1/10 mil clicks with mildots.
Here's one example
http://swfa.com/Leupold-35-10x40-Mark-4-LRT-30mm-Riflescope-P45004.aspx
It is my understanding there is no charge for the US export license.
It is my understanding the import license in Canada is about $25.00 (varys a little) but it is good for multiple shipments not just one scope.
I do not think we are being ripped off by dealers, it is groups like Korth who have a monoploy on importing. They have no compotition as Leupold will not sell to individual dealers here. In the US they have several distributors as well they sell direct to large box stores.
Maybe its time to work with a U.S. distributor, bring them into Canada and ship back and forth exclusively on the single license multiple item permits and go around Korth. Warranty ship back and forth once a week, or once a month and good to go. Drop prices and give Korth a workout. They need it. In fact it may very well not only be possible to do but quite likely profitable.
Here is an outfit in the US that will ship to Canada and do the US paperwork.
http://theopticzone.com/services/6/Customers_Service.htm
Here is where you can get the Canadian permit.
http://www.international.gc.ca/controls-controles/about-a_propos/impor/permits-licences.aspx
http://theopticzone.com/services/6/Customers_Service.htm
Here is where you can get the Canadian permit.
http://www.international.gc.ca/controls-controles/about-a_propos/impor/permits-licences.aspx
Just reading all the posts, How is the Korth Group going to know if the
Leupold scope was purchased from an authorized dealer in Canada?
It will not tell you that by the serial number......
It just seems to me like its a cash cow for Korth!!
What's going to happen, are they going to start asking me for the invoice when ever a scope has be repaired.
come on guys give your head a shake
Leupold scope was purchased from an authorized dealer in Canada?
It will not tell you that by the serial number......
It just seems to me like its a cash cow for Korth!!
What's going to happen, are they going to start asking me for the invoice when ever a scope has be repaired.
come on guys give your head a shake
Here is another one to put in the loop. I have not bought a snowmobile lately but I have heard a Canadian cannot buy a new Ski-doo in the US. If that is so what is the deal with that?
Could someone clarify that for me??????
So the same could be said for Leupold if there is truth in the snowmobile story.
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CBY
Could someone clarify that for me??????
So the same could be said for Leupold if there is truth in the snowmobile story.
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CBY
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- New Scotland
Of course the serial number will tell you when it was manufactured. In fact, you can email Leupold with your serial number and they will tell you when it was manufactured and if it was exported to Canada via Korth. That's the whole point of serial numbers.
What are you getting at here? You seem to revel in the fact that a Canadian importer can can charge more for a product because of some red tape involved with the importation process, collaborate with a supplier to void the warranty on a legally imported product to drive the final nail into the price fix.
When in some instances a product is charged 50%-80% premium when the dollar is essentally par is price fixing in most peoples books. The voiding of the warranty is the icing on the cake to solidify the price fix by both parties involved.
I can definately understand a Canadian importer having higher costs and hence a higher selling price because of the paperwork, but nearly double for some high end scope models?
Are you also happy to pay $20K more for a new pickup truck compared to what our American neighbors pay?
