Dear John, Part II

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Sure. Except that Marstar receives the bulk of dealer complaints on this site. I bought something from them once and the screwed up so badly that I vowed never to deal with them again. This seems to be a fairly common occurrence with Marstar.

They shouldn't be cut any slack because they are a "supporter of this site". Wake up dude, this site is run for a profit by its owner, regardless of claims to the contrary. Dealers pay hefty fees to advertise on this site.

To be fair and impartial it should be recognized that there are more complaints against Microsoft Windows then there is about Apple OS X. I would imagine as such, due to the fact windows outsells its competitor by a large proportion.
 
Contrary to most posts, I have recently made a purchase from Marstar all by email and was responded to and received my order within a week of posting it. I am very pleased with my purchase and the quick response I received... I can imagine that not every ones experiences have been the same but you must keep in mind they deal with contracts for a thousand +or- firearms at once and when they are busy and a single person is ordering a single item it sucks but it may be on the back burner while the other deal is being organized.
 
ROBIN 2Y;
"Half truths (and I'm being generous) don't belong here. "
It wold seem that we agree at least on this point....


Your #1) Quite so, you correcte the original order days later with the remark "I forgot to mention I want .40 cal ejectors" the order had been processed.

Your #2) We did not have slide that met your requirements, so we refunded....

Your #3) "At no time whatsoever was a dimensional specification sent to Marstar for the Sport B order."
"Please post the imaginary, "all of the criteria you specified," or retract the statement due to factual inaccuracy"
As you wish Robin, I will scan your letter and post here tomorrow....

I hope that once you have refreshed your memory you will extend me the courtesy of saying that perhaps you are in error ??
John
 
TWISTEDBRILLIANCE;
I appreciate your support on this matter.
Would like to clear up one point
"I can imagine that not every ones experiences have been the same but you must keep in mind they deal with contracts for a thousand +or- firearms at once and when they are busy and a single person is ordering a single item it sucks but it may be on the back burner while the other deal is being organized. "

Our international and wholesale operations have absolutely nothing to do with our Canadian mail order operation....
John
 
Tired of those loosers complaints! Be a man call the man and close the deal for god sake!
Close that lousy thread!
 
RIDDERICK;
"on the other hand marstar, the company principle and its employees are too busy satisfing customers to help out"
I will try to explain yet again, the pistol was purchased from ME not from Marstar, two seperate entities....
John

On October 5th I produced the invoice (From myself not Marstar) and debited your CC , and the parcel was sent off to you....




I can somehow understand the confusion, as it was a private sale, however a credit card was debited by a merchant...
 
AACOLLECTIBLE;
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I can somehow understand the confusion, as it was a private sale, however a credit card was debited by a merchant... "

Yes it was a private sale, yes we ran the CC through the office at the customer's request, for one reason or another the client asked for it, we try to accomodate....
I would suggest that before you offer an opinion that you make yourself aware of all the paperwork that was provided....
John
 
On the TT return, please provide me with your PAL number so that I can re-initiate transfer. I don't know why the CFC had things listed as a return to business uless they were trying to make it easier for me since I didn't have your PAL number. You have not provided an explanation as to why it has taken more than two months for me to be informed that there was some error.

My #1) The original order request was submitted well after hours on the eve of October 6th. My computer log shows that at 9:45 the following morning, a mere hour or so after your business opened, I sent the calibre specification update. It is this second e-mail that you acknowleded receiving, not the first. This was not days apart as you claim. You still owe $9.49 on the ejector return.

My #3) WRT the attempt to demonize me as an unreasonable customer:

On July 21st I ordered a Sport B and recieved confirmation of said order.

When nothing showed up, I followed up and on September 9th you responded, "At the end of April you returned a 1911a1 to us because it did not meet your criteria.... We refunded you.
There was no mention of your wish to purchase another pistol.... You did include the measurements that you required, please understand we cannot strip down pistols to see if they meet your requirements.... I can say that our new Sport series are much better fitted than previous runs...."

I responded with, "The earlier measurements I recorded were simply to demonstrate the difference in slide/frame fit compared to previous purchases. I don't like returning things but the one I did felt a little looser to me than i was comfy with."

You then asked if I wished to re-order, I said yes and you confirmed. No mention of a criteria to meet.

On November 9th I followed up and was again told my order didn't exist.

You clearly state that Marstar doesn't check frame measurments for customers and I clearly indicate that this was not my intent in the first place in your correspondance with me. Half a year later You fabricate a defense that totally contradicts the written record. Which statement is the truth, then or now?

You can post my letter; however, please be sure to remove any and all personal details. If it is dated before September 9th, then it is irrelevant per above.

I have no problem issuing an apology when I am in the wrong. This has yet to demonstrated to me.

r

ROBIN 2Y;
"Half truths (and I'm being generous) don't belong here. "
It wold seem that we agree at least on this point....


Your #1) Quite so, you correcte the original order days later with the remark "I forgot to mention I want .40 cal ejectors" the order had been processed.

Your #2) We did not have slide that met your requirements, so we refunded....

Your #3) "At no time whatsoever was a dimensional specification sent to Marstar for the Sport B order."
"Please post the imaginary, "all of the criteria you specified," or retract the statement due to factual inaccuracy"
As you wish Robin, I will scan your letter and post here tomorrow....

I hope that once you have refreshed your memory you will extend me the courtesy of saying that perhaps you are in error ??
John
 
.....You can post my letter; however, please be sure to remove any and all personal details.....

John is a real person, known by name, with contact information.
There is no reason why your identity should be protected.
 
Item #14 of CGN rules: No one shall disclose any personal information of any members without formal written consent of the member in question, unless the information is officially published in the public domain already with the consent of the member. Personal information include but not limited to first name, last name, place of employment and family information, or any information that may lead to the these information.

I think the reasons for the rule are somewhat obvious...

R

John is a real person, known by name, with contact information.
There is no reason why your identity should be protected.
 
This all overly dramatic and could be dealt with privately and more quickly through other forms of communication with less chance of "lost in communication". It seems to be a misunderstanding on both sides, one being over demanding and another over assuming. Why is this thread still open is still beyond me.

Also. In before the lock.
 
For my two cents, I think we need to turn the spotlight on crap like this and not just sweep it under the rug. The mods used to lock these threads up right away...I am glad that they are showing some integrity here at least.
 
Hey,
The sole purpose of posting this thread was to get transfer over with and be done with it. This should take a day, tops. I have PM'd, e-mailed and written a snail mail letter; however, it has only been this forum that has generated any action. Do I like it? Not really. But if it gets the job done, then so be it. For context, read the original Dear John letter I posted...
R
 
Best of luck to you robin2y, sometimes the only way to get things done is to push them out into the open to force a resolution.
 
Apologies for not pick this up earlier (and thanks to my eagle eyed spouse for catching it on lunch break) but I have had no discussions with your gunsmith, not even for frame rail dimensions. Am I being confused with someone else?

r

You did discuss this with our gunsmith.
We simply followed your instructions.... Did I miss something here ??
 
On October 5th I produced the invoice (From myself not Marstar) and debited your CC , and the parcel was sent off to you....




I can somehow understand the confusion, as it was a private sale, however a credit card was debited by a merchant...


Now I am really confused???:confused:
 
The significant other doesn't think that there is anything more to be gained from the banter and I tend to agree. I extend the last word to John. Please PM me your PAL number, respond in a timely fashion if the CFC requests more info and issue the refund upon receipt.
R
 
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