hunting with dogs

Thanks, I knew that coyotes had recently adapted to wolf like tactics. That, and at least here in Ontario, cross breeding with dogs, and some say wolves, they have increased in size. A dangerous force to be reckoned with.
I did shoot a wild dog (skin and bone, and barely alive) that was fighting with one of my hounds many years ago, but that's the closest I've come.
 
I run my hounds on bear and moose. I currently have a Walker and a Black & Tan--both gyps. Good hounds are born not made and they can come in any color.
Over the years I have lost a number of them to wolves and I once saw a big wolf kill a very gritty Plott hound with a single bite. Crushed his skull. That particular hound had been used in Wisconsin as a kill dog on coyotes.
I've had moose kill them too.
I live in an isolated part of the province and we only have one highway--still --like all houndsmen-- getting run over kills the majority of my hounds while hunting.
Man gonna run hounds knows up front from time to time you gonna lose one--sometimes in a very nasty way. Bear race ain't like a round of golf.
 
A lot of you guys are hunting with plotts. I have no experience withj them at all. What is their temperment like? Or are they just like black n tans or beagles in their ways?
 
As with any breed of dog, socialization is important, but Plotts generally have a good temperament towards people and other dogs- as most hounds do. Plotts have an honest reputation as bold and gritty hounds. Plotts descend from central European hounds that were used to hunt and bay boar and bear. In N America they are frequently used for bear, boar, coon and mountain lion- critters that tree or will turn and fight back.

Reality is that Plotts are popular with some hunters but Walkers are by far the most popular breed for most forms of hound hunting. Blue Ticks and English hounds are very popular as well. Plotts, Redbones, B+T's and various Curs fill in the rest of the void. All are capable hunting breeds.
 
I am sure glad we don't allow dogs to be used here for big game hunting. How sporting to go after moose and deer with dogs. Must be fun signing the fair chase form when and if you get a Boone and Crockett class animal after using dogs to chase them down. Dogs get shot here if they are caught running big game.
 
aylandacres said:
I am sure glad we don't allow dogs to be used here for big game hunting. How sporting to go after moose and deer with dogs. Must be fun signing the fair chase form when and if you get a Boone and Crockett class animal after using dogs to chase them down. Dogs get shot here if they are caught running big game.
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Each to their own...

Hunting with dogs isn't at all new. Been around long before firearms.
I find it very sporting to hunt with dogs. The animal has a far better chance of escape that you might think.
Far more sporting than sitting over a bait pile IMO. Thats more like waiting for a victim than hunting.
 
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No finer moment than a Setter on perfect point over a bird :D
 
aylandacres said:
I am sure glad we don't allow dogs to be used here for big game hunting. How sporting to go after moose and deer with dogs. Must be fun signing the fair chase form when and if you get a Boone and Crockett class animal after using dogs to chase them down. Dogs get shot here if they are caught running big game.
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Every jurisdiction has its own set of rules.
I myself would be the last one to throw stones at others for thier local & legal method of hunting style. Look at Saskatchewan rules for baiting: you can hunt over spilled grain or alfalfa legally, & still make Kelsey/Boone & Crocket, so what? IMHO, that's what makes this country so interesting.
I many parts of the American south-east and in Ontario this has been going on for generations and I see no reason why they should change.
 
aylandacres said:
I am sure glad we don't allow dogs to be used here for big game hunting. How sporting to go after moose and deer with dogs. Must be fun signing the fair chase form when and if you get a Boone and Crockett class animal after using dogs to chase them down. Dogs get shot here if they are caught running big game.
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You must be the guy who will only hunt with a knife and spear because, clearly, using a fast, flat shooting, magnum rifle with high power, variable scope is not fair hunting. Sounds very much like the bow hunters who frown on anyone using a crossbow, or the rifle and shotgun hunters who say that no one needs a pistol or an AR.

I don't hunt to get my name into the Boone and Crockett book. I hunt for the joy of the sport, the meat on my table, hides and to get rid of some vermin. And I love to see a good hound working a track.

Hunting with dogs has been going on for thousands of years. Some of today's, distinct, hound breeds go back centuries. I'll enjoy hunting with hounds, you enjoy looking down your nose at those who don't share your higher ethics.
 
Saskatchewan is missing out on an important benefit to big game hunters - our government doesn't even allow blood tracking of big game with dogs. In Europe many regions will not allow big game hunting unless a tracking dog is available.
I have hunted deer and boars in Germany with dogs moving the game to the hunters. It was very interesting and very sporting. Wish we could do it here!
I hunt birds and fur animals with Pudelpointer, and have owned a large Munsterlander and a Weimaraner. IMHO the European versatile breeds do everything pretty well, and are not over specialized. I do prefer the pointing breeds for upland birds.
 
WOW, really... clearly I stepped on some toes by merely expressing my opinion on hunting big game with dogs. Do I use a spear, knife or other weapons like that to hunt?? No! Do I hunt deer and elk that are feeding on my farmland ... yes I do. I have hunted ducks and geese with a black lab and it is very helpful plus the dog loves it. Watching a trained upland bird dog working would be very interesting.

Why don't you guys with your trained hounds come out here and put them on the scent of the wild boars and help get rid of these problem animals. The only problem with that is you might lose a few of them once they caught up to the boars. Yes there are a few guys who use dogs for coyotes here, dog v.s. dog and it seems to work well for them.

Like some of you stated we all have our own way of hunting animals; so I guess enjoy the way your use to hunting.
 
aylandacres said:
I am sure glad we don't allow dogs to be used here for big game hunting. How sporting to go after moose and deer with dogs. Must be fun signing the fair chase form when and if you get a Boone and Crockett class animal after using dogs to chase them down. Dogs get shot here if they are caught running big game.
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Your a troll, move on please.:mad:
 
aylandacres said:
WOW, really... clearly I stepped on some toes by merely expressing my opinion on hunting big game with dogs. Do I use a spear, knife or other weapons like that to hunt?? No! Do I hunt deer and elk that are feeding on my farmland ... yes I do. I have hunted ducks and geese with a black lab and it is very helpful plus the dog loves it. Watching a trained upland bird dog working would be very interesting.

Why don't you guys with your trained hounds come out here and put them on the scent of the wild boars and help get rid of these problem animals. The only problem with that is you might lose a few of them once they caught up to the boars. Yes there are a few guys who use dogs for coyotes here, dog v.s. dog and it seems to work well for them.

Like some of you stated we all have our own way of hunting animals; so I guess enjoy the way your use to hunting.
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Boars are hunted with dogs all over the world. You just use the right breeds for the job. But I agree you are a troll.

I had a Weimaraner/Lab that was an awesome natural hunter - I wish I lived somewhere where his talents could have been put to better use. He had fun terrorizing the coyotes out here. Never a scratch on him from coyotes - porcupines were his nemesis. ;)
 
I love hunting with a good bird dog. And agree that not being able to use a tracking hound to recover wounded game is a counter productive law. While my preferred method of deer hunting is still hunting or floating a river, I'd be happy to give hunting them with a hound a try before I pass judgement.
 
Hey Bam Bam, I am far from being a troll. I'm just stating my opinion on the use of dogs and big game hunting. Bring your dogs out here and let them after the boars. The wild boar will shred a coyote in seconds.

I don't know you from Adam, nor do I care to. Thanks for the insult; it reflects on your character.
 
Ya sure I'd love to have a crack at wild boar hunting, when can I come over!



Sorry, but this was a great thread until you showed up. :slap:

Indeed, certain forms of hunting with dogs is controversial, just like bow hunting,deer drives,baiting for bears, etc. Heck, the same negative opinion could be shared about shooting ungulates over your field, "how sporting." lol
 
aylandacres said:
I am sure glad we don't allow dogs to be used here for big game hunting. How sporting to go after moose and deer with dogs. Must be fun signing the fair chase form when and if you get a Boone and Crockett class animal after using dogs to chase them down. Dogs get shot here if they are caught running big game.
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wow. We have had some good hounds shot on us here as well. The quilty parties don't hunt anymore. At least not anywhere I know of.
 
aylandacres said:
Hey Bam Bam, I am far from being a troll. I'm just stating my opinion on the use of dogs and big game hunting. Bring your dogs out here and let them after the boars. The wild boar will shred a coyote in seconds.

I don't know you from Adam, nor do I care to. Thanks for the insult; it reflects on your character.
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3macs1 said:
Cannot go into the woods with out my two french Britts. Great for upland birds and will bring back ducks and even a goose.
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Nothing better for upland and pheasants than the Spaniels. You don't need to teach Spaniels to find birds, You teach them to bring them back.
 
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