Vortex Strikefire died quickly -edited - Replacement working fine

Drop a Colt 1911 on the pavement see if it works. Is it crap? This from a guy in love with plastic guns? I would just rather use it as intended instead of playing soldier and dropping sh&t, and if it breaks from use then its crap. If it breaks from dropping it then its user error. Either way Vortex has an unconditional warranty even for people like you that sit there and drop sh&t all day long to see how good it is lol.

If your gear can't take a fall now and then, its crap.

TDC
 
Drop a Colt 1911 on the pavement see if it works. Is it crap? This from a guy in love with plastic guns? I would just rather use it as intended instead of playing soldier and dropping sh&t, and if it breaks from use then its crap. If it breaks from dropping it then its user error. Either way Vortex has an unconditional warranty even for people like you that sit there and drop sh&t all day long to see how good it is lol.

If your 1911 doesn't work after a drop, yes its crap. I've repeatedly dropped and thrown my Glocks to prove they're tough and reliable. Got a few scratches on them but who cares, its a tool not a mantle piece. The warranty on any product is only valid if the company exists and you survive to return it(provided you're using a product to safe life and limb). I'm all for warranties, but I won't buy cheap crap that can't handle light to moderate abuse even if it has a warranty. Warranty work is time consuming and a pain in the a$$.

TDC
 
If your 1911 doesn't work after a drop, yes its crap. I've repeatedly dropped and thrown my Glocks to prove they're tough and reliable. Got a few scratches on them but who cares, its a tool not a mantle piece. The warranty on any product is only valid if the company exists and you survive to return it(provided you're using a product to safe life and limb). I'm all for warranties, but I won't buy cheap crap that can't handle light to moderate abuse even if it has a warranty. Warranty work is time consuming and a pain in the a$$.

TDC

I think you're confusing use with abuse.
Drag your hunting rifle across bushes, be less than gentle when placing it on the ground, have fun on a rainy, muddy day: That is called use, and Vortex is perfectly capable of handling such rough use.
Drop your rifle on the ground, smack it on rocks, kick it into the dust: that is called abuse... NOW,
whatever hunter/policeman/SIS Atlantis Door Gunner Operator you are,
the first thing you'll be taught is to take care of your stuff.
Drop your rifle during military training, see how that works out for you;
Nobody said that the Strikefire is bombproof, and sure is not throw it down the driveway safe. Is that your method of testing? fine,
my method of testing is fair, reasnable use, with proper care as for anything I own.

Just because a professional, 1700 US$ Canon L IS "Whithey" optic can whitstand being dropped, it doesn't mean I willingly smash it on the ground.
 
Well I guess that's the problem isn't it? You throw yours, I shoot mine. Everything I have works just great for shooting, however maybe I should try throwing my stuff to see if it really serves the purpose I bought it for.:slap: Trolling is your only other hobby besides firearms isn't it TDC?

If your 1911 doesn't work after a drop, yes its crap. I've repeatedly dropped and thrown my Glocks to prove they're tough and reliable. Got a few scratches on them but who cares, its a tool not a mantle piece. The warranty on any product is only valid if the company exists and you survive to return it(provided you're using a product to safe life and limb). I'm all for warranties, but I won't buy cheap crap that can't handle light to moderate abuse even if it has a warranty. Warranty work is time consuming and a pain in the a$$.

TDC
 
Well I guess that's the problem isn't it? You throw yours, I shoot mine. Everything I have works just great for shooting, however maybe I should try throwing my stuff to see if it really serves the purpose I bought it for.:slap: Trolling is your only other hobby besides firearms isn't it TDC?

I shoot my guns, and its not from the bench under sunny skies at 20'c. If you use a tool long enough you're going to drop it, bang it, knock it over or otherwise subject it to less than ideal conditions. If you don't, or haven't then how can you honestly say the tool(s) you use are rugged and reliable?

TDC
 
I shoot my guns, and its not from the bench under sunny skies at 20'c. If you use a tool long enough you're going to drop it, bang it, knock it over or otherwise subject it to less than ideal conditions. If you don't, or haven't then how can you honestly say the tool(s) you use are rugged and reliable?

TDC

I've lived with a rifle next to me for what some people would consider a considerable amount of time, and can say that I've never dropped, "banged", or knocked it over. Never mind kicked or thrown it. You know that we have opposable thumbs, right?
 
I'm all for warranties, but I won't buy cheap crap that can't handle light to moderate abuse even if it has a warranty. Warranty work is time consuming and a pain in the a$$.

Sounds like Vortex has a horrible, time consuming, warranty program :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I called One Shot Tactical and Brenda shipped me a new one that day
 
I have had no issues with my Vortex optics. They work great and didn't bankrupt me.
I own Bushnell and Leupold too, but 4 Vortex Scopes ride EGW bases on some of my favourite toys and I like every one of them.

Ruger 10/22 Tapco - Strikefire - red/green killflash - Plinker/Run n Gun
Tikka T3 Lite Stainless .243 - Diamondback 4-12X40, V-plex - Coyote Rig
Remington 700 SPS A5 McMillan .223 - Viper 30mm 6.5-20X44, Mil dot - Paper puncher
Remington 700 SPS Tatical HTG McMillan .308 - Viper 4-12X40, BDC - Paper puncher
 
I'm all for warranties, but I won't buy cheap crap that can't handle light to moderate abuse even if it has a warranty. Warranty work is time consuming and a pain in the a$$.

So freezing, throwing, dropping, etc it light to moderate use? Cause Vortex products have been put through tests like these by people who own them and 99% of the time they are passing with flying colors.
 
I've lived with a rifle next to me for what some people would consider a considerable amount of time, and can say that I've never dropped, "banged", or knocked it over. Never mind kicked or thrown it. You know that we have opposable thumbs, right?

Lived with and trained with are two different things. Like I said, I don'tr strive to drop or otherwise damage my gear but it happens.

Sounds like Vortex has a horrible, time consuming, warranty program :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

If I have to send away a product for warranty, that means I'm without a functional piece of equipment. That is a pain in the a$$.

So freezing, throwing, dropping, etc it light to moderate use? Cause Vortex products have been put through tests like these by people who own them and 99% of the time they are passing with flying colors.

Freezing and dropping are, throwing is more like excessive abuse. Vortex might be passing these tests most of the time, but they still have issues as has been posted. Until they reach the same status as Aimpoint or EOTech(although they seem to be taking a dive) I'll refrain from running one.

TDC
 
Lived with and trained with are two different things. Like I said, I don'tr strive to drop or otherwise damage my gear but it happens.

Ok, well, I've done both then. Y'know, the more of your posts I read, the more I wonder just how many medical professionals are worried about your whereabouts.
 
I am not familiar with Aimpoint so I will refrain from comment. But to say that NO ONE has ever had a bad experience with Aim Point is a pretty bold statement and dammed impressive if anywhere near the truth.

It's one of those things... You get what you pay for... Though, just because you pay $800+ for your Aimpoint doesn't mean you will never have failures.

True... You will see / hear about more failures with EOTech and Vortex optics than you ever will with Aimpoints... But, that doesn't mean an Aimpoint cant fail.

Aimpoint & US Optics have some of the most retarded stress testing I've ever seen. Deep freezing optics, using them as bats, taping a concussion grenade to the optic... throwing down range... and remounting without loss of zero, throwing on blacktop or gravel... remounting without loss of zero, etc... --I mean, they basically assume the worst case scenario's and test them to an extreme.

Maybe you can do that with a $200-$350 EOTech or Vortex... Maybe not.


If your like a vast majority of us... your not a solider, operator, or LEO that's likely to need a red dot. Thus, you do not need an optic that's recognized as 'the most rugged' you can possibly get.


As far as Aimpoint's I've heard of failing.... It's my understanding that a few have failed in the middle east in IED's or when Soldiers took old CompM2's (which were all being thrown away and replaced with CompM4's) and beat on them with screw drivers and hammers to see what it would take to break them. ---I've also heard that sometimes with the CompM2's the nobs would break off (This has been fixed with newer versions)...



At the end of the day... Only a fool will say that, or act like, an Aimpoint will never fail. Electronics, optics, mechanical parts, etc... they can all fail.

Though, that wont stop me from still buying Aimpoint.





@TDC --- Your the ultimate mail ninja and your posts make me giggle.... A manly mans giggle of course!! ;)
 
Ok, well, I've done both then. Y'know, the more of your posts I read, the more I wonder just how many medical professionals are worried about your whereabouts.

!!! SEE!!! That's why I say his posts make me giggle... Because I know some medical professionals are out there... Looking for him. :p
 
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