To me a 270 and a 308 are about the same recoil. 30-06 a lil more but I don't feel any are bad. That's me. Recoil aside. THe big difference I see in 308 vrs 30-06 is action length. I like a long action so 25-06 270 and 30-06 are better for me. A good buddy of mine shoots only short action cuz he slammed the bolt of my 300 win mag back into his nose. He shoots a 243 and a 308. The 308 can do everything a 30-06 can and plenty of moose and bear have been takin with a 270. Try to shoot as many calibers and guns as you can. I've shoot a few mossbergs and I can't say I liked anything about them. I have both stevens and savage 111s and love then. My stevens is in 25-06 and will shoot 3/8" groups at 100 yards my savage 300 winmag will do most likely the same. At 300 yards I can ring a 5" spinner. If you want a detach box mag savage is the way to go if your ok with a top feed and a cheaper stock I'd go with the stevens 200. I've never shot a savage edge yet but the ones I've handled I didn't like the feel. The gun must fit you for it to shoot good
Buying First Hunting Rifle: Mossberg or Savage Arms?
- Thread starter jstare
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See, now you neglected to ask the OP where he was located and assumed that he, like yourself, live in a game-deprived province where seasons are short and bag-limits are small.
Come out where the sky is big and try it. Here in AB, the rifle season for deer starts the first of September and ends the 20th of December. I wouldn't call that short. That includes both whitetail and mule. I can also hunt Elk on a general tag and moose on a draw tag. Bear has two season, spring and fall. Coyote, wolf, and bison are considered varmints in many areas and need no tag at all. Also, pigs are beginning to become pests and are hunted as varmints. And o f course there are gophers from march to August. They, too, can be shot with a large game rifle. If you can hit a gopher at 150yds with your hunting rifle, chances are you can hit the deer.
My friend, hunting never stops out here!! You stop hunting!!
See, now you neglected to ask the OP where he was located and assumed that he, like yourself, live in a game-deprived province where seasons are short and bag-limits are small.
Come out where the sky is big and try it. Here in AB, the rifle season for deer starts the first of September and ends the 20th of December. I wouldn't call that short. That includes both whitetail and mule. I can also hunt Elk on a general tag and moose on a draw tag. Bear has two season, spring and fall. Coyote, wolf, and bison are considered varmints in many areas and need no tag at all. Also, pigs are beginning to become pests and are hunted as varmints. And o f course there are gophers from march to August. They, too, can be shot with a large game rifle. If you can hit a gopher at 150yds with your hunting rifle, chances are you can hit the deer.
My friend, hunting never stops out here!! You stop hunting!!
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I wish there was a good inough reason to move west, but swmbo would never aproved, especially after watching the weather reports from your area
in defence of my opinion i thought OP mentioned he was ontario based
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I wish there was a good inough reason to move west, but swmbo would never aproved, especially after watching the weather reports from your area
in defence of my opinion i thought OP mentioned he was ontario based
I am actually from BC not Ontario. I also have enough people that I hunt with that have shotguns that I can use when I want/need to, but that will likely be my second purchase regardless.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Get the Edge in 270 and be happy that you made a good deal!
You cannot go wrong with them.
I have seen some bad chit happen at our range with three Mossbergs - too many "OOPS" things at one place for me!
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my mistake, beautiful province and smart decision on second purches, I can save you some time and tell you, you should buy .22 for your 3rd gun
my mistake, beautiful province and smart decision on second purches, I can save you some time and tell you, you should buy .22 for your 3rd gun
Yeah that is a possibility I would love a lever-action .22 that would be fun. I am going to purchase a pistol at some point too but that will be a while. Just gotta make sure I get one before the Liberals get voted into Ottawa again and ban them all together.
Buy a Thompson Centre Venture in .270 from Prairie Gun Traders who advertise on this site for around $579.00 and put a decent scope on it.
TC guarantees 1 min at 100 yards but it will do alot better than that with good ammo.
My son has one with a Redfield Scope and it will easily shoot a .58 inch group at 100 using reloads. He is using Hornady V-Max 110 grain bullets with 50 Gr. of IMR 4064 and CCI primers for varmit shooting.
It is a great gun for varmits and most things in Canada. With a heavier bullet there isn't much you can't hunt. The big thing is like always bullet placement.
I think you would really enjoy the rifle and for less than $1,000.00 you can get a good hunting gun.
TC guarantees 1 min at 100 yards but it will do alot better than that with good ammo.
My son has one with a Redfield Scope and it will easily shoot a .58 inch group at 100 using reloads. He is using Hornady V-Max 110 grain bullets with 50 Gr. of IMR 4064 and CCI primers for varmit shooting.
It is a great gun for varmits and most things in Canada. With a heavier bullet there isn't much you can't hunt. The big thing is like always bullet placement.
I think you would really enjoy the rifle and for less than $1,000.00 you can get a good hunting gun.
Buy a Thompson Centre Venture in .270, great gun and will shoot .58 of a inch at 100 yards any day of the week, providing you can shoot that well.
I think they are available from Prairie Gun Traders who advertise on this site. Somewhere around $579.00 Canadian.
Put on a good Redfield scope and enjoy it.
My son has one and it is great with 110 Grain Hornady V-Max using 50 Gr. of IMR 4064.
Thompson Centre guarantees 1 min. at 100 but it will do alot better than that with good ammo.
I think they are available from Prairie Gun Traders who advertise on this site. Somewhere around $579.00 Canadian.
Put on a good Redfield scope and enjoy it.
My son has one and it is great with 110 Grain Hornady V-Max using 50 Gr. of IMR 4064.
Thompson Centre guarantees 1 min. at 100 but it will do alot better than that with good ammo.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
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- Location
- South of 60
i have no personal experience with either rifle but i can tell you what i've heard from others if that's of any value to you although it's not really anything new from what's already been mentioned in this thread. i've never heard anything bad about savage rifles but have heard over and over that mossberg's have a heavy trigger. i think they are better known for their shotguns than their rifles. out of the two mentioned, i would go with the savage. as for calibre, if you are new to shooting, you won't go wrong with .270. if you have shot '06 before and are comfortable with it's recoil, i would say it's probably the easiest calibre to find at joe&martha's outback hole-in-the-wall country convenience store (but who ever runs out of ammo on a hunting trip? i usually take a couple boxes with me and might fire two rounds).
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
If you chose just between those 2, i will tell you stay away from Savage. Some of there gun seem to blow up
I hope you are kidding!
The Savage that blew up was a muzzleloader, and the Savage is 10 times the gun the Mossberg is.
I just bought a Marlin XS7 though as they have great reviews, and I've already had several Savages.
