Short berral lever action rifle(nonrestricted)

[1300_stainless]

as long as a rifle is over 26 inches over all and whos is ither manafacherd or a custom berral put on by a gunsmith it is non-resricted just like shootguns same law (think of a rifle as a shootgun ther the same thig in the law)just like the grizzly shootguns with 12 inch berral is non-resricted!

That's correct. However what I think people are trying to say is that you may have trouble finding a rifle barrel manufactured that short. (12") A gunsmith is not a "manufacturer", not in the eyes of the law. A gunsmith can install a short barrel for you if you can find one, but a gunsmith can not cut a barrel any shorter than you or I can.

I'm not sure if a licenced manufacturer can shorten an existing barrel blank and call it "manufactured" or not. I doubt it, but that's a question for a licenced manufacturer.

 

[Sun_and_Steel_77]

I am currently having a stainless 16.5 barrel installed on an 1894SS by Dlask Arms.
I am very excited about the project and will provide you good folks a full-report as soon as it is finished.

 

[carverk]

I geting a aia lee enfild in on friday and ordering a custom 12.5 berral fore it. look at one of your firearms registation certificat at the botom of the right hand corner 470mm or greater(470 is as short as you can go over all) ther is nothing about berral langth on your registation exepshion is whith center fire semi-automatic must have at leas a 18.5 inch berral and no less then 470mm over all

 

[Sun_and_Steel_77]

I geting a aia lee enfild in on friday and ordering a custom 12.5 berral fore it. look at one of your firearms registation certificat at the botom of the right hand corner 470mm or greater(470 is as short as you can go over all) ther is nothing about berral langth on your registation exepshion is whith center fire semi-automatic must have at leas a 18.5 inch berral and no less then 470mm over all

If you have that barrel installed on that rifle by ANYONE other than a licensed manufacturer you are in possession of a prohib. PLEASE do your research carefully.

 

[mlehtovaara]

Just curious why a 12.5 inch grizzly is out of the question?

I carry a 30-30 marlin loaded pretty hot or an 18 inch mossberg with slugs, in blackbear country.

But for the grizzlies, I would be thinking 12 guage or .454 casull. I don't know that I would want anything less.

Gets me thinking, who is gonna make a lever in .460, or 500 S&W? LOL

 

[Can-down]

I'm not sure if a licenced manufacturer can shorten an existing barrel blank and call it "manufactured" or not. I doubt it, but that's a question for a licenced manufacturer.

Its hard to imagine every short barrel being custom made on its own.

The Canadaammo short guns sure look cutdown by the manufacturer.

If the Manufacturer is not allowed to shorten a barrel under 18 or 18.5 inches then facing and crowning the barrel would be a problem as they would be "shortening" a barrel that is under the magic number....

The law is ridiculous and serves no purpose today except to make things harder and more expensive then they need to be...... they should have just left it at "it's against the law to commit a crime with a firegun of any length"

 

[Can-down]

If you have that barrel installed on that rifle by ANYONE other than a licensed manufacturer you are in possession of a prohib. PLEASE do your research carefully.

The barrel is the prohib not the fire arm.

So if the barrel is manufactured at that length and legal any one can install it.....

 

[Sun_and_Steel_77]

Its hard to imagine every short barrel being custom made on its own.

The Canadaammo short guns sure look cutdown by the manufacturer.

If the Manufacturer is not allowed to shorten a barrel under 18 or 18.5 inches then facing and crowning the barrel would be a problem as they would be "shortening" a barrel that is under the magic number....

The law is ridiculous and serves no purpose today except to make things harder and more expensive then they need to be...... they should have just left it at "it's against the law to commit a crime with a firegun of any length"

"The law is ridiculous" couldn't agree with you more!

 

[1300_stainless]

Its hard to imagine every short barrel being custom made on its own.

The Canadaammo short guns sure look cutdown by the manufacturer.

If the Manufacturer is not allowed to shorten a barrel under 18 or 18.5 inches then facing and crowning the barrel would be a problem as they would be "shortening" a barrel that is under the magic number....

The law is ridiculous and serves no purpose today except to make things harder and more expensive then they need to be...... they should have just left it at "it's against the law to commit a crime with a firegun of any length"

I suppose you're right. I have no idea how it works for a manufacturer other than they pay the government a lot of cash to have that class on their business licence.

I agree, that law, like most regarding firearms in this country, is ridiculous.

 

[BCRider]

Dlask and a few others make shorter than allowed barrels which does not alter the non-restricted status of the gun. But I'm pretty sure that the barrels of this less than 18 or 18.5 inch length are type approved by some level of the firearms branch to be allowed to be made and sold. Otherwise the manufacturers themselves would be creating prohibited devices by the law.

The reason a gunsmith can't cut down and make a new barrel under the legal minimums is because they are not registered as a manufacturer and they did not get type approval to produce shorter than normal length barrels from blanks, stock rod or any other material.

 

[Sun_and_Steel_77]

The barrel is the prohib not the fire arm.

So if the barrel is manufactured at that length and legal any one can install it.....

Poster states he's ordering a "custom" 12.5" barrel. If that barrel is neither a recognized and documented factory offering for that rifle or built for his firearm by a licensed manufacturer I wouldn't want to be in possession of it.

 

[Can-down]

Poster states he's ordering a "custom" 12.5" barrel. If that barrel is neither a recognized and documented factory offering for that rifle or built for his firearm by a licensed manufacturer I wouldn't want to be in possession of it.

As long as it was made by a licensed manufacturer he should be fine.

It doesn't need to be a documented factory offering but it would be good to have the manufacturer and length stamped on the barrel...

Looking forward to seeing your 1894 project!

What do you figure it's going to cost you and what barrel twist did you go with?

 

[Leg]

Poster states he's ordering a "custom" 12.5" barrel. If that barrel is neither a recognized and documented factory offering for that rifle or built for his firearm by a licensed manufacturer I wouldn't want to be in possession of it.

I'm giving him the benefit of assuming that he is using a licensed manufacturer. Companies like Dlask, Bits of Pieces and Elwood Epps all have manufacturing licenses for exactly this sort of purpose.

I for one look forward to the photos of the completed rifle.

I've always wanted a 16" 1895 Marlin "trapper".

 

[Sun_and_Steel_77]

As long as it was made by a licensed manufacturer he should be fine.

It doesn't need to be a documented factory offering but it would be good to have the manufacturer and length stamped on the barrel...

Looking forward to seeing your 1894 project!

What do you figure it's going to cost you and what barrel twist did you go with?

I requested something faster than the factory 38 twist, but I told Jo it wasn't terribly important. Jo felt total cost shouldn't exceed 500$ all in.
I gave him my factory 1894P as a template to build the 1894SS, all he has to do is duplicate the dovetail-cuts, mag. length etc. from the "P". I'm looking forward to seeing it back as well. I also hope that if I provide a detailed report on the build start to finish, others will have Marlins built the same way. If there are a bunch of short 1894's kicking around in the registry it would take the heat off me!

 

[carverk]

just got of the phone with bits and pecses gunsmithing and thay sad noproblem as long as thay manfacher the barral to lanth. I still hoping that canada ammo wod cositer a short 12inch lever action rifle !!

 

[cman]

just got of the phone with bits and pecses gunsmithing and thay sad noproblem as long as thay manfacher the barral to lanth. I still hoping that canada ammo wod cositer a short 12inch lever action rifle !!

Is this guy for real?
Nice spelling!

 

[carverk]

growe up city boy

 

[Sun_and_Steel_77]

Is this guy for real?
Nice spelling!

I'm thinking maybe english isn't this gentlemans first language. If that is the case I feel terrible that others would rip on a fellow member who has trouble with written english.
Now imagine if this fella just can't spell. That would be even tougher.
Many different age groups, ethnicities and education levels abound on CGN.
A little tolerance goes a long way. I can decipher this members posts relatively easy, and as long as one can get the gist of things no harm, no foul.

 

[rlg]

Is this guy for real?
Nice spelling!

Probably, since it goes without saying that English is not his first language. Old Masset, B.C. is not exactly the most accessible of communities. I was up in Ketchikan, Alaska (just a hop and a skip from Old Masset) on business a few years ago and there are many people in that region who speak Haida as their first language.

Welcome to CGN Carverk, and despite some of the stuff you may have read, most of these guys are well intended and very knowledgeable, just a little rough on the edges at times.

Regards
Robert

 

[carverk]

bits of pieces has made sum 12 inch lever thay named it Thors hammer non resricted I nead to find a used 44magnum marlin thay will do it fore me no problem