Hello...needing a little advise

glock_girl said:
They were actually locked in cases - the only thing missing was the trigger locks, which in an ironic twist my husband was attemtping to do and the locks were taken along with the guns when seized that day.
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This is what was originally posted, no mention of safe, but locked in a case, with no trigger locks

Even if they had trigger locks, it still would have been improper storage

Something is not right....
 
mb5200 said:
they were in a safe but no trigger locks, a must for restricted
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NO......someone needs to go back to class....or read the regs as published


Storing, Transporting and Displaying Firearms

restricted and prohibited firearms

* attach a secure locking device so the firearms cannot be fired and lock them in a cabinet, container or room that is hard to break into; or
* lock the firearms in a vault, safe or room that was built or modified specifically to store firearms safely.
* for an automatic firearm, also remove the bolt or bolt carrier (if removable) and lock it in a separate room that is hard to break into.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
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mb5200 said:
Ok a trigger lock or cable lock on the slide. either way they were not secured by any device...
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Not in a safe.

Nothing is needed other than in a locked safe.

If they were just in the Glock Pistol Cases that is one thing but if they were in a Cabinet or Safe then you were not required to open it with out a warrant specifically for the guns.

No offence but some of you are coming across as arses.
 
Urbanhuntr said:
Alright let me get this straight... Your pissed off now because you were too lazy to legally store your guns and now the police wont give them back once youve been convicted in court.... Hummmmmmm

What is your excuse as why they were not stored legally
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Welcome to the world of not being able to read...is it working well for you? It's great that you're trying to be funny & rude, but clearly you didn't read that I was not convicted.

What I'm mad about is that a judge ordered my guns & license back, because (you ready for this) I was not convicted. But the cops are looking into any possible reason they can continue to withhold them.

So, if you have nothing constructive to add to a topic, could you not bother.
 
Ftaview said:
If they were in a safe, how can they not be properly stored ?

Am I missing something ?
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They were not "in" a physical safe. They were in "safe" condition - they were in a locking case - just no trigger locks on the guns themselves. They keys for the case were stored separately - in a tackle box near them with the ammo.

So, they were "safe" but not in a safe.
 
Ftaview said:
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Well if they were in a Cabinet, then a secure locking device so the firearms cannot be fired would be needed

only if in a SAFE is nothing required
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True and I suppose they could claim there might be HD's in the cabinet so ...

glock_girl said:
They were not "in" a physical safe. They were in "safe" condition - they were in a locking case - just no trigger locks on the guns themselves. They keys for the case were stored separately - in a tackle box near them with the ammo.

So, they were "safe" but not in a safe.
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Legally, even for transport, you need the trigger locks on them stupid as that is.
 
glock_girl said:
They were not "in" a physical safe. They were in "safe" condition - they were in a locking case - just no trigger locks on the guns themselves. They keys for the case were stored separately - in a tackle box near them with the ammo.

So, they were "safe" but not in a safe.
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OK

So I read it differently, I now understand

however, and unfortunately, your storage did not meet the requirements of the law for restricted firearms

good luck on your quest to get your firearms back


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had to add, why the hell did they take the ammo.......? just another question I guess
 
dinsdale said:
True and I suppose they could claim there might be HD's in the cabinet so ...

Legally, even for transport, you need the trigger locks on them stupid as that is.
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Thanks for the thoughts Dale.

To others that suggest, Its hardly a 'defence', but only had the Glocks home a month. I was very new, and just finished the courses. It was not a matter of being lazy, I really was trying to ensure these were very safe.

If I could do this over, I'd have either had a non restricted as a first gun, or bought a gun safe before the guns themselves.

Somone mentioned me having these in the plastic Glock boxes. To clear the confusion
- The Glocks were in a hard shell case with foam inside. It was locked and out of sight. I bought trigger locks, but had no easy time applying them. I'd gone to a local hunting store seeking the 'looping' locks, but they had none.

- While in the stored state they were, a family matter happened, and thus the warrant for PCs.

I have no kids, share the home with nobody but my husband who holds the same license. I was not being lazy, and regret the outcome was nothing more then bad timing.
The crown allowed my husband to take the blame and conviction for the state of the guns, allowing myself to avoid conviction.

Hope that avoids any questions
 
Hard lesson to learn but at this point the Police are defying a court order so push the lawyer to send paper work demanding them back or a written refusal.


Buy a cheap Locking Cabinet and combo locks for the trigger.

You should be able to keep them as long as the hubby doesn't know the combo or have access to the key. Get his transferred to you.
 
Ftaview said:
I will leave this thread, otherwise if I say more, I will more than likely get an infraction, and booted off the site...

with that said

good luck to you
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Agreed oviously she doesnt understand the Firearms Act. Like to know what the search warrant read and what they were searching for.
 
glock_girl said:
I spoke to the officer today who's holding the guns. He advised that "if" the guns come back to me, they won't be able to be stored in the home due to my husbands conviction for unsafe storage.
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Welcome, I'm pretty new here also.

I can understand why the RCMP would hesitate to return the pistol(s) to your address because of your husbands prohibition. To them it presents a conflict. If they return the pistol(s) to that address, and something were to happen (accident or otherwise), fingers would be pointed at them for putting a firearm within arms reach of someone prohibited from owning a firearm.

If that's the only reason the RCMP are not cooperating, then perhaps you could arrange to have the firearms stored at the range (some ranges do that right?). Or somewhere else? I think transferring ownership of the firearms to original retailer for a credit is also a good way to go.

Anyway, just my $.02. Good luck.
 
Ftaview said:
OK

So I read it differently, I now understand

however, and unfortunately, your storage did not meet the requirements of the law for restricted firearms

good luck on your quest to get your firearms back

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had to add, why the hell did they take the ammo.......? just another question I guess
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Agreed, and again wish I'd started off with non restricted. In my ammo box I kept ear protection, glasses, and my licesne. The took it all at once.
I guess no license, no ammo.

I do thank everyone for sharing thoughts. The lawyer is going to continue, and is confident to have the firearms returned.
They are now going back to the Crown asking they do more in the matter.

I hope to get these Glocks back sooner or later, and look to make like minded friends. Don't wish to sound pissy in any responses, just a very annoying matter I want to put behind me.

Plus, after having gone shooting, then not having my license now.. I miss it bad. :(
 
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