shooting on my own property?

[chopper 1]

Yes I Did

Did you read Section 17?

"Subject to sections 19 and 20, a prohibited
firearm or restricted firearm, the holder of
the registration certificate for which is an individual,
may be possessed only at the dwellinghouse
of the individual, as recorded in the
Canadian Firearms Registry, or at a place authorized....​

Like I said earlier if you think this doesn't apply to you, fly at it and see how you make out in court. Seems pretty clear to me and others here.

Take Care

Bob

Yes I did - all of it including what you left out -

AUTHORIZED TRANSPORTATION OF
FIREARMS
TRANSPORT D’ARMES À FEU

Places where
prohibited and
restricted
firearms may be
possessed

17. Subject to sections 19 and 20, a prohibited
firearm or restricted firearm, the holder of
the registration certificate for which is an individual,
may be possessed only at the dwellinghouse
of the individual, as recorded in the
Canadian Firearms Registry, or at a place authorized
by a chief firearms officer.
1995, c. 39, s. 17; 2003, c. 8, s. 15.
17. Sous réserve des articles 19 et 20, une
arme à feu prohibée ou une arme à feu à autorisation
restreinte enregistrée au nom d’un particulier
ne peut être gardée que dans la maison
d’habitation notée au Registre canadien des
armes à feu ou en tout lieu autorisé par le
contrôleur des armes à feu.
1995, ch. 39, art. 17; 2003, ch. 8, art. 15.
Lieu de
possession
18. [Repealed, 2003, c. 8, s. 15]

AGAIN - notice the section heading -

TRANSPORTATION

not USE.

In order for a charge to be laid a criminal information (dope sheet) has to be filed and signed and cannot be as under this section it would be invalid as the wording would be invalid since the the firearm was not being transported -it was being used.

No crown attorney would allow a false information before the courts.

 

[Canuck44]

Yes I did - all of it including what you left out -

AUTHORIZED TRANSPORTATION OF
FIREARMS
TRANSPORT D’ARMES À FEU

Places where
prohibited and
restricted
firearms may be
possessed

17. Subject to sections 19 and 20, a prohibited
firearm or restricted firearm, the holder of
the registration certificate for which is an individual,
may be possessed only at the dwellinghouse
of the individual, as recorded in the
Canadian Firearms Registry, or at a place authorized
by a chief firearms officer.
1995, c. 39, s. 17; 2003, c. 8, s. 15.
17. Sous réserve des articles 19 et 20, une
arme à feu prohibée ou une arme à feu à autorisation
restreinte enregistrée au nom d’un particulier
ne peut être gardée que dans la maison
d’habitation notée au Registre canadien des
armes à feu ou en tout lieu autorisé par le
contrôleur des armes à feu.
1995, ch. 39, art. 17; 2003, ch. 8, art. 15.
Lieu de
possession
18. [Repealed, 2003, c. 8, s. 15]

AGAIN - notice the section heading -

TRANSPORTATION

not USE.

In order for a charge to be laid a criminal information (dope sheet) has to be filed and signed and cannot be as under this section it would be invalid as the wording would be invalid since the the firearm was not being transported -it was being used.

No crown attorney would allow a false information before the courts.

What exacty do you think this means:

"Subject to sections 19 and 20, a prohibited
firearm or restricted firearm, the holder of
the registration certificate for which is an individual,
may be possessed only at the dwellinghouse
of the individual, as recorded in the
Canadian Firearms Registry, or at a place authorized
by a chief firearms officer."

If those are the only two places you can be in possession of your restricted or prohibited firearm what makes you think you can possess it out in the back 40 blasting away (Unless the CFO says you are authorized to do so.)?

Tell me you are not a lawyer...please.

Take Care

Bob

 

[tgif]

To the best of my research on the subject if you have a range inside your house your restricted firearm can be discharged but only firearms registered to you and the location.As for your firearms you are not transporting your firearms an ATT is not required.

 

[Grizzlypeg]

Some older guys have told me that way back, all they needed was a temporary ATT to take their handgun out to the cottage to shoot targets or rabbits in the bush. Oh, the good old days.

 

[YoungGun85]

Canuck 44: I think what he may be getting at is discharging the firearm FROM the dwelling house. For example, if one was to set up an addition as a shooting bay table and were to fire from inside the walls of the dwelling house into the backyard, dirt pile, etc. through window or doorway you could technically be ok. If the poster intended to take the firearm OUTSIDE the walls of the dwelling house he would require an ATT and could not legally do so. If i'm wrong on my attempt at clarifying your opposing position then i apologize in advance.

 

[chopper 1]

What exacty do you think this means:

"Subject to sections 19 and 20, a prohibited
firearm or restricted firearm, the holder of
the registration certificate for which is an individual,
may be possessed only at the dwellinghouse
of the individual, as recorded in the
Canadian Firearms Registry, or at a place authorized
by a chief firearms officer."

If those are the only two places you can be in possession of your restricted or prohibited firearm what makes you think you can possess it out in the back 40 blasting away (Unless the CFO says you are authorized to do so.)?

Tell me you are not a lawyer...please.

Take Care

Bob

Carefully read my first post on the subject (#43) in response to Frankie T's post (#42).

Then you will understand it is not illegal unless the receiver passes the threshold.

By the way an outdoor porch if enclosed (one wall and a roof or 2 walls and a roof) may be considered a part of the residence for the purposes of transport regulations - so you may be able to sit on your back porch and shoot restricted into the back 40 -

 

[Polar Man]

To the best of my research on the subject if you have a range inside your house your restricted firearm can be discharged but only firearms registered to you and the location.As for your firearms you are not transporting your firearms an ATT is not required.

This sounds interesting. But if your house is an approved range, then your friends can get ATTs to go and shoot with you at your house.

 

[Canuck44]

Canuck 44: I think what he may be getting at is discharging the firearm FROM the dwelling house. For example, if one was to set up an addition as a shooting bay table and were to fire from inside the walls of the dwelling house into the backyard, dirt pile, etc. through window or doorway you could technically be ok. If the poster intended to take the firearm OUTSIDE the walls of the dwelling house he would require an ATT and could not legally do so. If i'm wrong on my attempt at clarifying your opposing position then i apologize in advance.

I agree you probably can do anything you want inside your house although if bullets were exiting the home and somebody complained I suspect you might spend some time talking to the locla police. I am not sure why you would want to discharge your firearms inside your house but that is another subject altogether.

What seems to be clear is you can't go roaming outside your dwelling with restricted/prohibited firearms without authority from the CFO. For most of us that means an ATT to the range, border crossing, gunsmith etc. Having your guns seized by the police while you wait to plead your case in front of a judge doesn't seem to me to be to smart of move no matter the outcome.

Take Care

Bob

 

[Wolfgang7]

Now lets say your house is not a certified range , gunsmith or a place the CFO has otherwise approved etc......... does loading up your handgun and blasting it inside your house for whatever reason break this law?

STORAGE OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS

6. An individual may store a restricted firearm only if

(a) it is unloaded;

(b) it is

(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and

(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in

(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.

 

[Grizzlypeg]

I doubt loading it and shooting at a target is considered storage, any more than cleaning it, or working on it is considered storage and requires it to be locked in a case.

 

[maurice]

good read. I actually am house hunting,..and found two houses with serious cold storage space,..which basically was a cement tomb,...ceiling, walls,etc. Perfect for a small private indoor range.

 

[YoungGun85]

Well in my future plans when i move to a more rural property sans neighbours this is my plan to have a berm @ 100yards and a shoot shack built onto a doorway to allow legal discharge of restricted firearms.

 

[CRAZYLOCH]

SO if i own a sea going vessel (boat) and register my firearms to this boat as my dwelling (yes i sometimes live on my boat for weeks to months at a time)

then if i sail out to open waters (international...yes WAY out there at sea) can I legally say attach a big piece of meat to a bouy and plink at it?

 

[uchi]

SO if i own a sea going vessel (boat) and register my firearms to this boat as my dwelling (yes i sometimes live on my boat for weeks to months at a time)

then if i sail out to open waters (international...yes WAY out there at sea) can I legally say attach a big piece of meat to a bouy and plink at it?

damn right you can, just dont hit any fish or you may get busted for not having the proper permit to fish with live rounds lol

 

[chopper 1]

good read. I actually am house hunting,..and found two houses with serious cold storage space,..which basically was a cement tomb,...ceiling, walls,etc. Perfect for a small private indoor range.

The tomb requires mega ventilation (soundproofed also) to avoid flourescent purple fungus growing on your liver from all the lead cadmium mercury sinoxoid etc from the primer and powder detonation -

 

[olansky]

it doesnt have to be an outdoor porch or attatched to your house since they ask for your LAND location... so shouldnt you be able to shoot anywhere on your land? not not just from your porch or am i just too tired and saying idiotic things?

 

[Paatz]

SO if i own a sea going vessel (boat) and register my firearms to this boat as my dwelling

You don't get to decide if your boat is an approved storage location, the CFO does. He might not think it's a good idea.

 

[uchi]

You don't get to decide if your boat is an approved storage location, the CFO does. He might not think it's a good idea.

what if the boat is your only residence? some people live in a house boat and dont own property. i guess that would be grounds for not being approved to own any restricted weapons

 

[FrankieT]

it doesnt have to be an outdoor porch or attatched to your house since they ask for your LAND location... so shouldnt you be able to shoot anywhere on your land? not not just from your porch or am i just too tired and saying idiotic things?

I believe the wording is specific to "DWELLING". This would mean that you don't have carte blanche to shoot anywhere on the property. Dwelling would require a roof.

 

[Slavex]

In the FA/CC there is a section that details prohibited and restricted firearms are only able to be fired at a place where it legal to discharge them, an approved range being the only choice. It is not part of the ATT rules. If I was at my PC I could probably find it.