I didn't know the SS used G33/40's. I thought they were only issued to GEBIRGSJAEGER divisions, the mountain troops. Every one I have seen was pretty much a grey gun with little finish remaining. Have you ever seen a 33/40 with single rune stamps or any other SS markings?
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Coyote Ugly
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Regarding G33/40
I really got a good laugh out of the EE when I saw the California Flip done by a few buyers and sellers here.
Here's what happened:
1. Mismatched G33/40 imported from the USA to Canada for $700 bucks. (Saw the deal on another forum).
2. Relisted and Sold on CGN for $1800. A cool $1100 profit.
3. Relisted and Sold for $2500. A cool $700 profit.
For $2000 US you can get a 99.9% Mint All Matching G33/40 off the line and never issued.
For $700-$800 US you can get a bolt mismatch G33/40.
Our Dollar is at Par with the US Dollar!
Don't pay the "Valmet Price" on a G33/40 and get severly Gouged!!!
Just Import from the USA as it is cheaper, use Questar or your favorite importing service for importing.
Even with the fees you are further ahead.
My tip of the day - The money is better in your wallet than in a price gougers wallet.
The guy holding the $2500 G33/40 Mismatch is like a Ponzi Scheme where the Bubble just Burst! Is he going to try and double his money??? LOL
As for RC K98's, I would never pay a penny more than $300 as the only significance they hold is makers marks on the barrel and reciever for a serial number study. They are the roughest entry level K98 you can find. All Mismatched. They are shooter grade. It's collectability is like the difference between watching a 1970 Hemi Cuda on Barrett-Jackson and then looking at a rusty and wrecked 1970 Cuda at the Junk Yard.
I really got a good laugh out of the EE when I saw the California Flip done by a few buyers and sellers here.
Here's what happened:
1. Mismatched G33/40 imported from the USA to Canada for $700 bucks. (Saw the deal on another forum).
2. Relisted and Sold on CGN for $1800. A cool $1100 profit.
3. Relisted and Sold for $2500. A cool $700 profit.
For $2000 US you can get a 99.9% Mint All Matching G33/40 off the line and never issued.
For $700-$800 US you can get a bolt mismatch G33/40.
Our Dollar is at Par with the US Dollar!
Don't pay the "Valmet Price" on a G33/40 and get severly Gouged!!!
Just Import from the USA as it is cheaper, use Questar or your favorite importing service for importing.
Even with the fees you are further ahead.
My tip of the day - The money is better in your wallet than in a price gougers wallet.
The guy holding the $2500 G33/40 Mismatch is like a Ponzi Scheme where the Bubble just Burst! Is he going to try and double his money??? LOL
As for RC K98's, I would never pay a penny more than $300 as the only significance they hold is makers marks on the barrel and reciever for a serial number study. They are the roughest entry level K98 you can find. All Mismatched. They are shooter grade. It's collectability is like the difference between watching a 1970 Hemi Cuda on Barrett-Jackson and then looking at a rusty and wrecked 1970 Cuda at the Junk Yard.
Coyote Ugly
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Even at a $700 fee, it's still "Money in Your Pocket"!
Doing the math, $700 + $700 still does not equal $2500, $3000, or $3500!
See what I mean, Gouging!
6th Nord SS Division had Gebirgsjaeger units. They mostly fought in Finland and Russia before being moved to the Western front.
Most SS guns won't have runes or other SS markings. There are many debates on any SS marked firearms.
The general conclusion are as follows:
Single rune rifles just indicated SS supervised assembly and perhaps not ownership. Single rune rifles were assembled at the Styer satellite plant where rifle parts were assembled into whole rifles. Most of these rifles probably went directly into SS use, but there is no direct evidence. I am sure waffenmeisters would flip when receiving none-proofed firearms.
BNZ 44 no letter block rifles were an SS contract but the vast majority show no SS markings.
Several Gewehr 98's were converted by the SS and these are the rifles that sometimes have legit death head markings. These are some of the only legit SS guns that are SS marked.
There are known SS sniper conversions where the rifle and scope mounts are SS marked.
Many believe that the SS would have been smart enough to stop marking their weapons with SS insignia, because if caught with such a weapon it would have been a death warrant on the Eastern Front. Later on there were similar cases on the Western Front, especially in regards to the Normandy massacre. SS and Snipers were generally treated the same by allies when captured and to say the least, that means they were treated generally quite poorly. However after it was ordered that German helmets would no longer have helmet decals it was often SS units that still applied the rune decal as a show or pride. However there are legitimate examples of Heer and Luftwaffe helmets with these late decals. I actually know a Vet that obtained several Heer decals from a Canteen within Germany during the spring of 1945.
The SS did use several other weapons which they did not mark including VZ24's and G24(t)'s.
What makes it hard for collectors is that many SS marked or single rune rifles out there are fake. What makes this even tougher is that legit examples have great variations, especially the single rune bnz rifles which have the singe rune placed either perfectly square or haphazardly - legitimate examples of both have been found.
Yeah but you said yourself that a collector grade one is the US is $2,000 so add the import fee and you are up to $3,000.00
Even if the guy bought the mis-matched one in the US for $700.00 by the time he pays the export fee, shipping, HST and who knows what else it is going to be at $1,600.00 or so. If the guy sold it for $1,800.00 he is only making a couple of hundred bucks.
If it was as easy and cost effective as you are suggesting there would be a lot more of them coming up from the US. The fact that there is no over supply suggests that it is not quite so simplistic.
Coyote Ugly
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
You really missed the point. People are asking $2500 to $3500 for a $700 rifle Mismatched rifle (in fair to good condition) because the Buyer is either stupid or just doesn't know any better.
That's up to 5 Times more than it's actual value! ($700 X 5)
Like they say, a sucker is born every minute. $700 to $3500 is a big spread. Ripoff.
Do you actually think that every G33/40 Imported is going to be put up for sale on the EE??? Maybe try salted away in a collection.
Which means we don't have any idea what comes and goes across the border.
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