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before i get into this im going to ask first, is it ballistically smart to shoot a deer at long distances? i guess wut im trying to say is will there be any venison left or will the bullet even have enough velocity at that distance to do its job. now that being said i want to build a precision rifle for taking deer at long distances. i have a towerline setup that allows me to shoot for miles... literally. i was thinking something in .308 but im open to suggestions. i really want a mcmillan tactical stock, can anybody tell me how much these are worth and where i can find them cheap. i guess you cud say im new to the whole precision thing so let me know wut u think.
 
look at the top of the page at the dealers, on the top on the right is mystic precision.he's the guy you want to talk to. as for long range hunting a buddy i hunt with has a .338 lapua he hunts deer/elk/moose/enything with at 1.5-2 miles (or km i can't remember which) wither way a alooong way. it knockes em down jus as hard as my .30.-06 does at 400 yards.

When shooting targets at long range, if you miss you just wasted a shot. when hunting at long distance and you miss, you may still hit that deer and wound it. it is my opinion that you need to know your gun and your skill level very well to hunt a longer ranges like that. Personally it wouldn't matter what rifle i picked up i wouldn't feel comfortable taking that kind of a shot, the margin for error is too small. i have fun hitting gongs at a mile (and when i say gongs i mean a total of 2 out of 5 shots). when it comes to guns if you have the money get whatever you want and have fun with it. when it comes to hunting, i strongly suggest getting as close as you can before taking the shot. I'm no tree hugger, but i'd hate to see an animal limp off into the woods to bleed out and die due to a bad shot.
 
cz858hunter said:
i hear what your saying. i can guarantee you there will be lots of planning and practise leading up to that shot. its hard to explain my set up but i have it planned out anyways. iv considered the .338 lapua but the ammo is hard to find and i would imagine quite expensive.
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don't quote me on this but buddy handloads and i think he said they are still about 5 bucks a bang.... i could be wrong on that though.

personally i'm not a good enough shot and haven't had the practice to shoot that kinda distances (or the money to practice) but my buddy has the time money and practice and can easily make those shots consistanly and confidently. I can't/won't stop ya but like ya said practice practice practice.

i'm sure some others will chime in that have more experince than me. when i can hit the gong and 500 yards 8 out of 10 times with my .30.06 i think i'm a sniper picking off bin laden lol. so really i'm just giving you my experince i've had with my friend and the few times he's let me shoot his fancy rig. He'd let me shoot more, but he never lets me pay for ammo and i feel bad shootin' the damn thing.


anyways i'll shut up now and make way for teh more experince shooters. but talk to mystic. though i've never dealt with him myself everything i've ever heard about him has been good.
 
Do you have any experience at all shooting at extended ranges?

There are real ethical considerations to long range hunting.
 
If you want to shoot at long range, shoot targets. If you want to hunt, learn to hunt so that long range shots at game are not necessary. Extreme long range shots at living animals are not ethical because of all the variables you cannot control. Wounded animals will eventually be a result.

For me, hunting and long range shooting are two different activities.
 
I also have partaken of this long range hunting hobby.

Haven't had much problem with killing my game though, seems at longer distances they provide excellent shooting situations due to the fact that they cannot detect you, usually sitting still for many shots until you land that perfect one. Never had one get away yet, always recovred my kills, although a wounded 4L milk jug isn't hard to track!!!!:p

p.s. - the vital area is quite large extending from one end of this animal to the other!!!
 
Firstly,

I belive long range hunting is possible. But I also belive there are only 1 out of 700 shooters who could accomplish it. Of those who could accomplish it, only 1 in 500 are actually good enough to do it........

Secondly,

The smallest calibre that should be considered for long range hunting is 300 Winchester Magnum. Period. End of discussion. You may say that 308 is what most target shooters are shooting at 1000y. But IMO they do not offer enough ballistically to GUARENTEE a CLEAN KILL at 1000+

Thridly,

Anyone who says they 'shoot critters' at 1500 to 2000m (2 miles is almost 3.5 KM) "all the time" is a big fat liar or a really irresponsible hunter, regardless of calibre utilized. People successfully shoot those ranges on targets, the armed forces shoot 'Taliban' at those ranges on very extreme occasions (most sniper shots are taken under 500y), but anyone who calls themselves a hunter and shoots at game that far away is irresponsible at the very least.

Are range finders even available that can accuratly range at 2000m? (I really don't know....) I have one that says it is good to 1200y. But thats BS, more like 500y on deer sized game. On large hills or buildings it can range 1000y pretty accuratley (If my GPS is accurate as well)

Rant off!.

I love these kind of posts on here........

Gives me a good chuckle........
 
No dog in this fight but do you know what an honest 500 yards looks like on a deer?

I only hunt coyotes with a rifle anymore. Last week I had a coyote at 350 yards. My rifle is accurate past that. I passed on the shot as it looked too far and I didn't want to gut shoot it and track it all over hells half acre. After the opportunity was gone and knew the distance I realized that truly long range is for people with: a giant work ethic.
lots of skill
the best equpment
 
notsorichguy said:
Secondly,

The smallest calibre that should be considered for long range hunting is 300 Winchester Magnum. Period. End of discussion. You may say that 308 is what most target shooters are shooting at 1000y. But IMO they do not offer enough ballistically to GUARENTEE a CLEAN KILL at 1000+


Gives me a good chuckle........
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Okay....This post shows that you actually have no idea of what you are talking about, so perhaps you should refrain and keep your posts to subjects you have actual first hand knowledge about.

Ballistic knowledge, bullet upset, wind reading, all play very big factors in the ability to kill an animal at longer range.

NOT the size of the cartridge you used.
 
With proper equipment such as ranger finders, good optics, cartridges applicaple, a good rifle, and decent marksmanship, there are many shooters able to go 500+ these days on a one shot kill.
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rral22 said:
Extreme long range shots at living animals are not ethical because of all the variables you cannot control.
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:jerkit: There are folks who harvest game successfully at long distance every season. There are also folks who miss and cripple by lobbing a shot on a "wing and a prayer".
To a skilled and practiced rifleman who chooses to take game at a range he knows he can achieve a good hit, your "ethics-juju" is just banter.
 
cz858hunter said:
before i get into this im going to ask first, is it ballistically smart to shoot a deer at long distances? i guess wut im trying to say is will there be any venison left or will the bullet even have enough velocity at that distance to do its job. now that being said i want to build a precision rifle for taking deer at long distances. i have a towerline setup that allows me to shoot for miles... literally. i was thinking something in .308 but im open to suggestions. i really want a mcmillan tactical stock, can anybody tell me how much these are worth and where i can find them cheap. i guess you cud say im new to the whole precision thing so let me know wut u think.
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So your new to the whole precision thing and you think its a good idea to take pot shots off at a animal at a 1000+yards? Once you can say honestly that your a experienced compitent long range shooter then try long range hunting. Thats my 2 cents anyways.
 
I usually stay away from getting baited into these threads but..

First we need to qualify what is "Long Distance Hunting". To some this is any thing past 300 yards, to other it is 1000+..

To the OP.. Judging by your questions (and it is a guess on my part) you are 3 years and $3000 away from shooting at game past 500 yards..

Can it be done cheaper?? Oh yes.. Can it be done sooner?? Oh yes.. But to be ethical you need trigger time and the right equipment before you can do these types of things..

I have banged steel at a mile with a 260AI.. Can I hunt out there?? not a chance..
 
cz858hunter said:
i hear what your saying. i can guarantee you there will be lots of planning and practise leading up to that shot. its hard to explain my set up but i have it planned out anyways. iv considered the .338 lapua but the ammo is hard to find and i would imagine quite expensive.
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Not if you roll your own.
 
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