Bausch and Lomb 10x Tactical MilDot

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I have an original B&L 10x Tactical 30 mm scope that is mounted on a 700 in 7.62. It is one of the best scopes I have ever owned. I am after information on this scope, parts breakdown, serviceing specs etc. Snipercountry did a write-up in this scope many many years ago but other than that info is sparse.

The scope still works great and I have found few scopes in the same price range that can compete with it today. If anybody has information on this scope I would appreciate hearing about it.
 
Well gootch, I recall a certain 6 to 24X B&L shod rifle dropped on the concrete.:redface: The tube was quite visibly bent.f:P: The Bushnell tech shop in Toronto were very helpfull to asses the damage, putting the scope through the entire gamut of their testing equipment while I waited. All at no charge.:D

Seeing as Bushnell bought out the B&L brand, perhaps your quest for info could start there.
 
Snipercentral had a more recent review or this scope with a litte more detail,and I believe Sniperside had a call out for the manual that someone one had. You maybe able to PM that person and get the manual.

And your correct the B&L Tac 10 is an outstanding scope, hold on to it.

Trevor
 
sendero said:
Is it this one here ???

http://www.snipercentral.com/bushtact.htm
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No that is the Bushnell 3200 10 x the B&L 10x mildot scope has a 30mm tube and was orginaly manufactured as a sniper scope for the US Navy Seal's .the scope gained popularity and all the remain contract over run scopes were sold and B&L continued production for a couple of more years . I have one it is a robust scope and is in mind a great value I have S&B ,Nightforce and a few Leopuld MKIV and it as good as as any of these .
photos from snipers hide

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Here is the article
"http://www.snipercentral.com/bl10x.htm"
 
wow, look GOOD, wish they still have that scope...

i'am thinking to put a 10x fixed model on my new build BUT don't know it i will like it, i was to give the 3200 a try, if i don't like the 10x fixed, then, it's cheaper to change it !!!
if i like it, i will switch to a leupold

Thank's for the info

respectfully

Marc
 
B&L 10x

Great feedback, gents Thanks. I am presenty in South Carolina, been talking to a very interesting individual at the Palmetto Indoor Gun Range in Hardeeville http://www.palmettoindoorrange.com/) . The gent there, Ed Soto, was a sniper long time back and still does some interesting activities for local LE and a variety of other organizations. He was and is still an old school 308 shooter and gave me great insight into the use of not just the 308 but the Tactical as well. He is literally a virtual library of information when it comes to using the mildot and on how to maintain them.

Nice picture of the scope, which is exactly what mine looks like.
Will post one when I get home and save for any copyrighted material, I will post what I get on the scope. Now back to firing MP5s on ful auto. Gotta love them boys in the south.
 
looks like the tasco super snipers

interesting

it looks exactly like the tasco super snipers that were sold by swfa in the late 80's early 90's. at the time, they advertised them as being made to some US military specifications

Gootch said:
Great feedback, gents Thanks. I am presenty in South Carolina, been talking to a very interesting individual at the Palmetto Indoor Gun Range in Hardeeville http://www.palmettoindoorrange.com/) . The gent there, Ed Soto, was a sniper long time back and still does some interesting activities for local LE and a variety of other organizations. He was and is still an old school 308 shooter and gave me great insight into the use of not just the 308 but the Tactical as well. He is literally a virtual library of information when it comes to using the mildot and on how to maintain them.

Nice picture of the scope, which is exactly what mine looks like.
Will post one when I get home and save for any copyrighted material, I will post what I get on the scope. Now back to firing MP5s on ful auto. Gotta love them boys in the south.
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They may look like the supersnipers, but when you see them side by side, they are definitely of different quality and caliber. Not to put down the supersniper. It is a great scope for a fraction of the cost of the B&L Tactical.

i.m.h.o the clarity of the Tactical is superior to the SS and the adjustment knobs on the Tactical are better constructed with respect to seals as well as the physical feedback and positive clicks when rotated.

Perhaps VViking can comment on his experience with the SS compared to the Tactical.
 
10X Shootout, B&L vs. Super Sniper

Well Gootch .... don't mind if I do :evil:


Have spent some belly time in the snowdrifts with both the Super Sniper 10x and B&L tactical, side by side, at long range.
The differences between them amount to far less than their similarities. Both are tough, the SS has once hit the Canadian Shield hard enough to move the mounts 18 moa off zero(don't ask:redface:), a scratched objective bell was the only damage. Not so surprising, weighing in at 22 oz's, they were both built strong, and to full military internal specs.
The B&L enjoys distinctly crisper turret clicks, louder too.
SS's turrets are O ring sealed, as the specs. for it are Navy. If they are removed, the 'feel' improves.
The SS has a side paralax adj. knob, an ergonomic enhancement for those of us who like to dope/click/shoot, double quick, so's to get back inside to that toasty 'ol woodstove.
Optically, the tactical is a bit sharper at the crosshair intersection, but fuzzier out at the edges of the F.O.V.
Definition and colour also favor the B&L, but just slightly.
Repeatabilty and return to zero are equal ... both excellent.
Eye relief ... plenty for both.

Have never had a shot that seemed much different being behind one than the other.

As long as B&L buddy doesn't upgrade to 6.5mm, .... should continue to hold my own with the $400 Super Sniper. :dancingbanana:
 
Well Mark, thats the rub .... they aren't sold in Canada, since the U.S. border export crackdown.
Super Snipers are available only from SWFA, and they will not ship to you.

A 10x, 16x, and a 20x have been offered on the EE over the past few months.
 
The rub on scopes from the States seems to be that hunting optics export are not controlled by the State Department but by the Department of Commerce.

One can get approval to import scopes by obtaining the proper paperwork from this location:

Export Controls Division (EPE), Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Export & Import Controls Bureau
P.O. Box 481, Station "A"
Ottawa ON K1N 9K6

I understand that the process of shipping to Canada for a merchant in the States is just not worth the effort, therefor many just don't bother.

If you are interested in a Supersniper one could always contact Alberta Tactical Rifle at http://www.albertatacticalrifle.com and see what they can do for you. However, they sell Nightforce, so why would one want a Supersniper?:confused:

Guess I'll have to baby my B&L for a lot more years. MilDot forever
:sniper:
 
For service of the B&L Tactical MilDot contact the following people:

Bushnell Corporation of Canada25A East Pearce St.Richmond Hill, Ontario L4B 2M9 Local Phone - (905) 771-2980 Other - (800) 361-5702 [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Local Fax - (905) 771-2984[/FONT]

The Tactical was indeed morphed into the 4000 series Bushnell scopes, which later became the 4200 series. The Tactical has a rear adjustable paralax, however that was left off on the Bushnell scopes. Some claim that the Supersniper is basically a Tac with improvements, however, we all know that not to be true.

Testing of the Tac, which for the Navy included mounting it on an M-25 sniper rifle and then dumping it into a pool for three weeks proved The Tac was truely a waterproof scope. This is why it ended up being used by SEALs.

The scope has a build in sun visor, which is short but effective. The recessed lenses are adequately protected and some have resorted to extending the tube to minimize barrel heat mirage in repeat shot environments. Only partly effective. I used a 6 inch suntube from a Leopold to extend the Tac's tube and mounted it with rubber electricians tape. It totally eliminates sun glare in the scope as well as reduces lens flash.


I am still searching for a parts breakdown or servicing kit for the knobs.
 
And here it is. One of the few remaining prestine B&L Tactical MilDot scopes on a Remington 700. For those who are observant, the scope is not set to 0 due to an adjustment requirement from Palma Match to Lapua Scenar. Scope is zeroed so that using one mildot up provides a 100 yard zero shot.

So here's the question then. These are USMC mildots. What is the real zero of the rifle using the crosshairs.

BLTactical.jpg


The Butlercreek fliptops work well, but one has to be careful with locating the rear one properly so it doesn't interfere with bolt manipulation or the release mechanism. However, this rifle wasn't really created to shoot short distances and the parallax never needs to be turned down to the low ranges.

The only thing missing is a scope level for those extreme long shots. Tilting a 308 at 800 yards has a suprisingly large effect upon impact point. I have never used one, but I am told it really helps keeping the rifle level.
 
Gootch said:
So here's the question then. These are USMC mildots. What is the real zero of the rifle using the crosshairs.
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The B&L Tac 10 came with the round Army mil dots not the football shaped USMC dots.

As to what the distance is 1 mil is 3.6'' so without knowing the speed and weight of the scenars you use we can only guess.

I shoot the 155's scenars ar 2950 and it zeroed at 3.75 inches high at 100 but dead on at 300. so depending on the speed and weight you may be dead on at 300

Trevor
 
Gootch said:
And here it is. One of the few remaining prestine B&L Tactical MilDot scopes on a Remington 700. For those who are observant, the scope is not set to 0 due to an adjustment requirement from Palma Match to Lapua Scenar. Scope is zeroed so that using one mildot up provides a 100 yard zero shot.

So here's the question then. These are USMC mildots. What is the real zero of the rifle using the crosshairs.

BLTactical.jpg


The Butlercreek fliptops work well, but one has to be careful with locating the rear one properly so it doesn't interfere with bolt manipulation or the release mechanism. However, this rifle wasn't really created to shoot short distances and the parallax never needs to be turned down to the low ranges.

The only thing missing is a scope level for those extreme long shots. Tilting a 308 at 800 yards has a suprisingly large effect upon impact point. I have never used one, but I am told it really helps keeping the rifle level.
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The true zero will be 3.6 m.o.a. up from your crosshairs, likely close to 300+- yards, depending on your M.V. and B.C., ... JBC and the chrony are your friends.

Agree on the level issue, ... if you shoot a group at say 200 yds., on a target with a plumb line attached, then crank 'er way up, and shoot again to the same P.O.A., any cant in your scope mounting, or hold, will manifest.

A really nice anti-cant level is currently offered by uzi 4us, on the optics EE. Good guy.

If you don't already have one, a podlock can help too. 556 NATO sent me a real nice one. Far as I know he still has a few.
 
sendero said:
wow, look GOOD, wish they still have that scope...

i'am thinking to put a 10x fixed model on my new build BUT don't know it i will like it, i was to give the 3200 a try, if i don't like the 10x fixed, then, it's cheaper to change it !!!
if i like it, i will switch to a leupold

Thank's for the info

respectfully

Marc
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I've got a 3200 10x40 fixed power on my m14, love the scope, the only thing is the eye relief is not near what some of the other elites and scopes I've used. The turrets are a little mushy, not really good clicks on them, but for $210 - (wholesale in calgary) it was a great entry level fixed power scope. also like gootch said, they do not have parallax adjustment

I would love to try out one of the B & L fixed power.
 
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