Turkeyslayer 1300
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Russell, Ontario
They have .45 caliber barrels, the problem is not shell diameter but barrel diameter.
How strong are .410 shotguns?
- Thread starter ribber@shaw.ca
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They have .45 caliber barrels, the problem is not shell diameter but barrel diameter.
You really should stay within the limits of your imagination, if only obviously. Weak sauce, son. Very weak sauce.
R.
I've got that issue (and every other one in the last 2 years) that article was full of misprints and erroneous information.
When he started talking about stringing buckshot loads together he even got shot types mixed up.
The loads in that article have no bearing in reality.
I don't know if it was the editor's fault or the author but disregard that article.
You can read
Four posts behind, and you're asking if I can read? Keep licking glass and looking at pictures. It suits you well. Congratulations?
R.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
I may be wrong and they have changed the regulations, but as far as I know it is illegal in Alberta to hunt deer with a 410 slug.
Cat
410 slugs are a common deer round for women around here. Legality is sort of borderline but I've never heard of anybody being hassled by MNR over it yet.
Get a pump or lever gun, keep a birdshot round in the chamber and a slug right after it, if you bump into a deer, rack point and shoot. If you engage multiple grouse remember to rack twice before shooting a 2nd time though LOL
Get a pump or lever gun, keep a birdshot round in the chamber and a slug right after it, if you bump into a deer, rack point and shoot. If you engage multiple grouse remember to rack twice before shooting a 2nd time though LOL
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
it's not" borderline" here at all!
http://www.albertaregulations.ca/huntingregs/index.html?season-wmus.html
This pretty well lays it out here in Alberta. other provinces may have different regs however...
Cat
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blasted_saber
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- A blue part of Ontario
One thing to remember: Deer are smart, birds arent. I just open the chamber enough I can pull the slug out with another coming up from the magazine, and put a bird shot in the chamber then close it. I'd much rather miss out on a bird then a deer trying to frig around (and possibly quietly) getting a bird shot out.
I can see that now. The reson it's "borderline" here is that regs for big game mention shotguns and minimum calibers for them specifically, yet also mention rifles firing a projectile of .243 and above diameter.
People tend to "creatively" interpret the regs in such a way that a shotgun ceases to be a shotgun once it's loaded with a slug. Some people go thru the extra trouble of getting a rifled barrel, hence turning their "shotgun" into a "rifle" by definition.
People tend to "creatively" interpret the regs in such a way that a shotgun ceases to be a shotgun once it's loaded with a slug. Some people go thru the extra trouble of getting a rifled barrel, hence turning their "shotgun" into a "rifle" by definition.
Now I am no longer in doubt about you. Read every one of your sorry dribbles. I now know for sure you are pure BS about the cows. I sure struck a nerve by asking a couple questions (do that mean you are a liar) and have some wierd thing about licking glass and breathing in your own farts. I can hardley wait for your next spillage. Have at it. Knock yourself out.
I don't know about hunting moose with factory .410 slugs, I am developing a system where I remove the slug and replace it with a arrow and extra huge broadhead, I keep it centered in the bore with some cotton batts, sort a like a harpoon gun. Accurate enough to hit a sheet of plywood seven times out of ten at 30 yards, should be good for moose or grizz in the thick bush That reminds me I have a limited entry grizz draw for this spring, to hell with the .375 Ruger Iam going to take my .410 !!!
That reminds me I have a limited entry grizz draw for this spring, to hell with the .375 Ruger Iam going to take my .410 !!!
I don't know about hunting moose with factory .410 slugs, I am developing a system where I remove the slug and replace it with a arrow and extra huge broadhead, I keep it centered in the bore with some cotton batts, sort a like a harpoon gun. Accurate enough to hit a sheet of plywood seven times out of ten at 30 yards, should be good for moose or grizz in the thick bush
WOW send us the pics when you get it done.
I have some old 125 thunderheads kicking around that sound perfect for what you are doing.Drop me a line and I will send them alongBetter still send us pics of you going after the bear with the 410.
and how he reacts when you fire the 1st 410 load at him
Covey, you sorry sack of goo. I always like how you armchair internet warrors expound on things you know absolutley nothing about. This thread was about shooting animals with 410 slugs. This is something I have have done, and you have not. Because you haven't done it, and I have, people now must put up with your guesses and "opinions", which is all you have, at best. Stick to facts, and comment on what you have done, personally. There are several accounts on this thread of people shooting game with a 410 slug, according to you, they must all be liars as well. Get off of the couch, and go do something, stop guessing, and stick to what you know.
R.
i'm not tryign to 
or anything, but it depends on the gun. i have a little IGA (stoeger) backacker it .410. Way back when, I shot some middle of the road .44 mag pistol handloads through it. The gun did not explode, detonate, eject the hammer back into my head, etc, etc, etc.... the brass were a little sticky in the chamber, but didn't need to be pried out or anything, as they had expanded in the chamber. No cracks or bulges, just a nice uniform fire form to the .410 chamber.
just my .02
or anything, but it depends on the gun. i have a little IGA (stoeger) backacker it .410. Way back when, I shot some middle of the road .44 mag pistol handloads through it. The gun did not explode, detonate, eject the hammer back into my head, etc, etc, etc.... the brass were a little sticky in the chamber, but didn't need to be pried out or anything, as they had expanded in the chamber. No cracks or bulges, just a nice uniform fire form to the .410 chamber.just my .02
I've actually met a guy who front stuffs arrows into 410 3" shells. I love 410s they're great for tickling lil bunnies to death and give sporting clays a whole new meaning. I wouldn't shoot a deer past 30 yards with a 410 slug legal or not. But the slug would hit harder then the 45lc so why risk ruining the gun?
i'm not tryign to
just my .02
Do you have any idea the risk you are taking doing this. Please correct me if I am wrong but a mild .44 mag load is around 35,000 psi which is three times what the 410 is designed to handle. Yes as engineers that is why we put factor of safety in everything but you cannot design for pure foolishness.
You did it and were very lucky, next time you may lose a hand, finger god knows.
Please don't even give the impression that is was OK and someone else try it and get killed.Ever think what happens when that 44 round hits the choke on the end of the 410 shotgun.?? We have rifes for a reason or guns that are designed to handle both.Get one of those please
One of my co-workers was telling me that he was shooting.44 magnum factory shells out of a friends single-shot .410.
Apparently they have done this a few times with no disasters.
I told him that they were crazy and going to get hurt. I wouldn't even shoot .410 shells out of that gun anymore. At least until inspected by a competent gunsmith with a borescope.
Apparently they have done this a few times with no disasters.
I told him that they were crazy and going to get hurt. I wouldn't even shoot .410 shells out of that gun anymore. At least until inspected by a competent gunsmith with a borescope.
Now I do not have first hand experience shooting 44 mag ammo in a gun designated 410. Some will tell you I should not have an opinion on this because of that but I will say that it is downright ####ing dumb. I still have my nose and all of my fingers, but no first hand experience.
