Moose shot at 1100 yards

It seemed like a very calm evening?... Wouldn't be a hard shot with only elevation to contend with. Thats basic rifle range stuff, if youve done the home work and had plenty of practice!.... Would I shoot at that range?... absolutely not at a respected game animal.

At a taliban terrorist, like any vermin, no problem... it would be fun to scare the s**t out of him with the first shot, and watch it pray to alla just before meeting her, at the next shot.:D:ar15:
 
sealhunter said:
My biggest concerns would be judgin a cross wind that exists at 800 yrds ...but no doubt they know how to do this.
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Wind would be hard to judge for most.

I recall a buddy of mine shootin a nice bull @ a bit over 800yds with a 7mm Weatherby, with one shot that plowed through the boiler room. When asked back at the camp later that night if he aimed dead on (because he was using a magnum). He said no! He aimed, at the top of the moose just over the hind end (broad side). He judged wind, and distance perfectly, but he was an old hat at sooting distance. Unlike 98% of shooters. Some can, some cant, and others tell stories like Sniper-T.
 
I call BS on the " watching the bullet all the way to the spine " thing , You see *I* DO have the computer equipment and monitor (42") as well as software to go Frame by frame if I so choose........ Funny, I can't seem to follow the bullet, you must have Superman Eyes ! I just watched itin time lapse ..... nope , no can see it .
 
bearkilr said:
"Hunted a lot" and "never lost an animal" are two phrases that never go together, I don't care who you are. Sorry bud, I call BS on that one.
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Sorry dude < I never said I haven't missed , I said I haven't lost an animal, and I haven't . So call BS all you like , I don't BS , EVER ! i have had shots that didn't go so good , but I have not LOST an animal , I said nothing else ! I've been hunting for 40 years , i've never taken a shot I couldn't make, I don't get all fluffy , I'm out there to get my animal and fill my freezer, I don't hunt for antlers, which is in my opinion unethical , but to each their own eh ?
 
captonion said:
Wind would be hard to judge for most.

I recall a buddy of mine shootin a nice bull @ a bit over 800yds with a 7mm Weatherby, with one shot that plowed through the boiler room. When asked back at the camp later that night if he aimed dead on (because he was using a magnum). He said no! He aimed, at the top of the moose just over the hind end (broad side). He judged wind, and distance perfectly, but he was an old hat at sooting distance. Unlike 98% of shooters. Some can, some cant, and others tell stories like Sniper-T.
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Estimating correction based on current velocity at a particular crosswind and it gets tricky...now go 100 yrds and throw in two crosswinds....

For a shot such as the one in the video,... the situation has to be ideal for taking such shots if you wish to be successful, consistently.
 
greywolf said:
Sorry dude < I never said I haven't missed , I said I haven't lost an animal, and I haven't . So call BS all you like , I don't BS , EVER ! i have had shots that didn't go so good , but I have not LOST an animal , I said nothing else ! I've been hunting for 40 years , i've never taken a shot I couldn't make, I don't get all fluffy , I'm out there to get my animal and fill my freezer, I don't hunt for antlers, which is in my opinion unethical , but to each their own eh ?
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OK whatever, carry on.
 
YOU GET IT !!!!! right on ! if he had taken that shot on a rather windy day , I'd have been on the unethical bandwagon , but the weather sure looked pretty good for a shot like that. I wouldn't take a 300 yard shot on a rather windy day .
sealhunter said:
Estimating correction based on current velocity at a particular crosswind and it gets tricky...now go 100 yrds and throw in two crosswinds....

For a shot such as the one in the video,... the situation has to be ideal for taking such shots if you wish to be successful, consistently.
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Ah, yes, the armchair boys speak again.. so the OP posted a video of his shot.. and you don't believe it, the math nutz proved it, so then you deem it unethical, when anyone else says that they shoot anywhere beyond 150 yards you call bullsh!t... maybe if you guys got off the couch and spent some time with a rifle, you'd see that longer shots are possible and ethical.

don't worry, hunting season is coming soon enough... you can go out the week before shoot off 5 shots, then go make your 60 yard double lung bang-flop. Then you can hang up your gun for another year, and sit at the computer and berate anyone who does better than you.

And yeah, call BS if you like... but unless you actually see or better yet do... you just don't have a clue! Here's some homework for you children... look up some long range shooting competitions, find one near you; and go watch. And I don't mean just the competition (although Lord knows you could learn something there); watch the competitors between rounds, or after the comp is over... when the fun shooting begins. Then you'll see some offhand shooting that'll blow you away!

I'll let you kids rant on... I'm going to go out and fire off a couple hundred rounds.
 
sealhunter said:
Estimating correction based on current velocity at a particular crosswind and it gets tricky...now go 100 yrds and throw in two crosswinds....

For a shot such as the one in the video,... the situation has to be ideal for taking such shots if you wish to be successful, consistently.
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That's the key word in this whole debate on long range hunting/shooting at live animals. For starters, let's not compare this to target shooting.
Very few can do it on animals, and the videos of f**k-ups don't get posted or talked about, but the animals bear the burden.
 
sealhunter said:
I call BS...:p
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jealous ? I can back it up , I only hunt with the same 8 friends my entire life. I just don't take shots where I have even the slightest doubt , the I don't get all excited over an animal when it comes out , I get excited Afterwards , try it sometime , maybe you'll miss less , and not be so jealous over someone that hasn't lost a kill.:p If I get a miss this year , I'm blaming you;)
 
rookie wildcat said:
How does a severed spine, severed fairly far back, contribute to a quick death? Humans with severed spines do not die but go on to live extremely long lives, animal is no different.
The spine was not severed far enough forward to interfere with brain and organ function. The front part of that moose was still trying to get up for several minutes. The moose died from blood loss, he may have nicked an artery judging by the blood around the ground, no different if it had been heart shot.
However, I maintain that was not a good shot. Just because it died, doesn't make it a good shot. I'm sorry, you can't spin it enough for me to believe that.
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There is no way that a spined big game animal can evade the hunter. Therefore, an animal that is spined, even at long range will suffer no longer than it takes the hunter to get to him and finish the job.

What we should be concerned about is, "Was it legal?"
The answer is yes.

Would have I attempted it?
No, because that's not the type of hunting that turns my crank.

But I believe its a mistake to vilify the legal actions of others in the field when those actions are at odds with the way we do things.

Again, we should confine discussions of ethics to what is legal, and to the practices that have a reasonable expectation of success for individual involved, based on his experience and equipment. What is ethical for you may be beyond my ability so would be unethical for me to attempt, what is ethical for me, might not be within the ability of someone else.

When we say you have to hunt the way I do, because I know what’s right, we’re on a slippery slope.

As for the antis, they are irrelevant. If they had their way there would be no hunting, ethics doesn't enter the equation. As for the perception of cruelty, that must be balanced with the reality of living in nature with nothing more than you were born with, not from a human perspective.
 
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greywolf said:
jealous ? I can back it up , I only hunt with the same 8 friends my entire life. I just don't take shots where I have even the slightest doubt , the I don't get all excited over an animal when it comes out , I get excited Afterwards , try it sometime , maybe you'll miss less , and not be so jealous over someone that hasn't lost a kill.:p If I get a miss this year , I'm blaming you;)
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greywolf said:
jealous ? I can back it up , I only hunt with the same 8 friends my entire life. I just don't take shots where I have even the slightest doubt , the I don't get all excited over an animal when it comes out , I get excited Afterwards , try it sometime , maybe you'll miss less , and not be so jealous over someone that hasn't lost a kill.:p If I get a miss this year , I'm blaming you;)
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Boomer said:
There is no way that a spined big game animal can evade the hunter. Therefore, an animal that is spined, even at long range will suffer no longer than it takes the hunter to get to him and finish the job.

What we should be concerned about is, "Was it legal?"
The answer is yes.

Would have I attempted it?
No, because that's not the type of hunting that turns my crank.

But I believe its a mistake to vilify the legal actions of others in the field when those actions are at odds with the way we do things.

Again, we should confine discussions of ethics to what is legal, and to the practices that have a reasonable expectation of success for individual involved, based on his experience and equipment. What is ethical for you may be beyond my ability so would be unethical for me to attempt, what is ethical for me, might not be within the ability of someone else.

When we say you have to hunt the way I do, because I know what’s right, we’re on a slippery slope.

As for the antis, they are irrelevant. If they had their way there would be no hunting, ethics doesn't enter the equation. As for the perception of cruelty, that must be balanced with the reality of living in nature with nothing more than you were born with, not from a human perspective.
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Thank you Mike, well said!
 
Sniper-T said:
Ah, yes, the armchair boys speak again.. so the OP posted a video of his shot.. and you don't believe it, the math nutz proved it, so then you deem it unethical, when anyone else says that they shoot anywhere beyond 150 yards you call bullsh!t... maybe if you guys got off the couch and spent some time with a rifle, you'd see that longer shots are possible and ethical.

don't worry, hunting season is coming soon enough... you can go out the week before shoot off 5 shots, then go make your 60 yard double lung bang-flop. Then you can hang up your gun for another year, and sit at the computer and berate anyone who does better than you.

And yeah, call BS if you like... but unless you actually see or better yet do... you just don't have a clue! Here's some homework for you children... look up some long range shooting competitions, find one near you; and go watch. And I don't mean just the competition (although Lord knows you could learn something there); watch the competitors between rounds, or after the comp is over... when the fun shooting begins. Then you'll see some offhand shooting that'll blow you away!

I'll let you kids rant on... I'm going to go out and fire off a couple hundred rounds.
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You have zero credibility after your BS posts... you're full of s**t and you know it...
 
greywolf said:
jealous ? I can back it up , I only hunt with the same 8 friends my entire life. I just don't take shots where I have even the slightest doubt , the I don't get all excited over an animal when it comes out , I get excited Afterwards , try it sometime , maybe you'll miss less , and not be so jealous over someone that hasn't lost a kill.:p If I get a miss this year , I'm blaming you;)
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My little guy got at the Keyboard...

Anyhow, I don't doubt you have not lost an animal. I myself have never lost a big game animal that I have shot...

I called BS that you "Never BS" lol :p
 
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