****Vortex Optics WOW!!!!****

razorbeck said:
Sorry to burst your bubble but a Honda Ridgeline is NOT a truck, its a car with a box. It has no frame it has a car unibody design hence there being no split between the cab and the box.

If you sit to pee you might consider it a truck but no one else should make the mistake

I know a brick layer who bought a full sized Totota truck and considered it the worst decision he ever made. It burned gas like it was free and the first time he put a load of sand in the box it crumpled like cheap card board.

Ford has done me proud for 20 years and they get better each iteration. As for why you might need to repair them, it is because people actually work them and not just drive them to soccer and the nail salon
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I'm only quoting what the consumer guide and other critics have investigated , therefore; I now own a Toyota Tacoma and my wife an Acura and never had a problem with them like the previous GM products. My Tacoma has hauled big loads of soil/gavel and has taken me to many isolated/off trail locations in northen Alberta and Saskatchewan to haul out big whitetails. I want/need a vehicle that is reliable and once the consumer guide brings up the domestic product in the 1,2,3 place finish line then I will purchase it.
 
track said:
Thanks! Always willing to learn more. I believe that Leupold have their lenses manufactured in Japan as well, especially for their higher end optics. If you have a chance check out the Vortex binoculars.................you will be impressed with the both lenses and price.
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cannot tell for Leupold but certainly you re right.

there is company in Japan LOW making riflescopes not only and then put the brand on it : like Bushnell, Sightron, Vortex, Huskemaw and many more ....

yes i ve seen into them. they were the level of my nikon monarch atb ... to be impressed in optical terms i can be at any time but there is even a brand made in China very clear and for the price but that doesnt mean ill buy it.

my only concern about Vortex is their repair center ..... not in Canada even if they re giving a new one or whatever they cannot fix in a snap but that s just me ...
 
For the last few years I've been experimenting with optics that give serious value for the buck. The two other brands I've tried are Falcon, and Bushnell.

IMO my Viper PST takes the cake in this pricing segment. I haven't compared the sightron and although I hear good things, I don't like that sightron doesn't offer open target turrets. For comparison sake with the above mentioned, the Viper PST wins in glass, construction/materials, and fit/finish hands down. At this price point I think the only other comparison would be sightron.

Overall I'm a fan, this particular model is truly a thing of beauty.
 
50calshooter said:
For the last few years I've been experimenting with optics that give serious value for the buck. The two other brands I've tried are Falcon, and Bushnell.

IMO my Viper PST takes the cake in this pricing segment. I haven't compared the sightron and although I hear good things, I don't like that sightron doesn't offer open target turrets. For comparison sake with the above mentioned, the Viper PST wins in glass, construction/materials, and fit/finish hands down. At this price point I think the only other comparison would be sightron.

Overall I'm a fan, this particular model is truly a thing of beauty.
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Thanks for the insight on the PST and I will be taking a serious look at them whenever I'm back at Wholesale Sports. My son and I are users of Leupold and Zeiss rifle scopes, however; a Swarvoski is going on his newly purchased Model 56 Cooper and I'm in the market as well for another rifle. The PST may be a candidate for that rifle. If they are as good as the Vortex Viper Bino's the master card is going to for a slide.
 
track said:
Better read the consumer guide/report, it's fact and fact is the truth.
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You're starting to sound like Wendy...........

I know what i drive and stand by it, no "consumer report" is going to change my mind, seeing it with your own eyes is worth more than that. Before you mention in the consumer report bit again, this is my opinion and I'm entitled to it ! END/
 
Besides I doubt the consumer guide/report see's the trucks after 30 K of hard use with a cracked box and a frame so rotten by salt that I can put a hammer through it and have to get it warrantied. :nest: Before I here anymore facts, I'm a Red Seal certified tech and both Tacoma's and Tundra's are known for their issues the same as any other truck. Ram and Sierra are the only better and Ford is the only worse. Before the Ford fanboys speak up, have you tried to pull a plug on your late model F150 yet? If not I recommend you get to a shop before you try it. :)
 
YoungGun85 said:
Besides I doubt the consumer guide/report see's the trucks after 30 K of hard use with a cracked box and a frame so rotten by salt that I can put a hammer through it and have to get it warrantied. :nest: Before I here anymore facts, I'm a Red Seal certified tech and both Tacoma's and Tundra's are known for their issues the same as any other truck. Ram and Sierra are the only better and Ford is the only worse. Before the Ford fanboys speak up, have you tried to pull a plug on your late model F150 yet? If not I recommend you get to a shop before you try it. :)
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Well I own a business with a dozen trucks of a variety of domestics and I will stick with Fords for any new purchases I make. They are tougher and more reliable then the rest and while you are correct about the plug placement with new engine designs the need to replace these plugs is non-existant till they have mega miles on them
 
Razorbeck: The issue is not the placement it's the rediculous design. The tip of the plug breaks off in the head leaving you a 50/50 chance of having to pull the head to remove the metal and porcelain bits that are now lodged inside the engine. A ford trucks spark plugs last no longer than any other, it's just that most techs will leave your plugs till you get a noticeable, check engine inducing miss rather than take a risk of having to explain why a tune up turned into a head job. A spark plug is unlikely to cause a drivability issue till it's worn past the porcelain as long as it's not cracked. So yes, I stand by my statement.

To the OP: I apologize for participating in the thread derail. I would like to get my hands on a PST 1-4 to see if it lives up to the hype. If it does i'll have to buy one as soon as I can get the cash together.
 
YoungGun85 said:
Razorbeck: The issue is not the placement it's the rediculous design. The tip of the plug breaks off in the head leaving you a 50/50 chance of having to pull the head to remove the metal and porcelain bits that are now lodged inside the engine. A ford trucks spark plugs last no longer than any other, it's just that most techs will leave your plugs till you get a noticeable, check engine inducing miss rather than take a risk of having to explain why a tune up turned into a head job. A spark plug is unlikely to cause a drivability issue till it's worn past the porcelain as long as it's not cracked. So yes, I stand by my statement.

To the OP: I apologize for participating in the thread derail. I would like to get my hands on a PST 1-4 to see if it lives up to the hype. If it does i'll have to buy one as soon as I can get the cash together.
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Your forgiven Grasshopper.:cheers: I really don't mind any person debating about their beliefs and passions. I respect your opinion and thoughts. I wish that I knew more about mechanics and I guess thats why I have chosen a reliable vehicle that will get me home and not stranded in the middle of no-where. ;)
 
I agree Track! Honest opinions based on experience can be very valuable tools for determining your next purchase. Most products on the market today are pretty sound, I like Vortex products but have used Bushnell, Tasco, Leuppold and others in the past with mostly very positive results.
 
The Vortex binos are a decent buy, but for nearly the same money, I would recommend the Bushnell Elites instead. IMHO the optics and features are slightly better in low light for nearly the same $.
 
Well I went to Wholesale sports in Calgary after work and purchased the Vortex Viper HD 8x42. I compared them again to the Swarvoski SLC HD 8x42 and they were exactly the same for quality lenses..... clearity, sharpness and true colours. There was one big difference.......the price. The Vortex Vipers are three times less the price as the Swarvoski. With tax they came to $724.51. As long as Vortex continues to make fantastic optics as good a the German's and Austrians I will continue to purchase them. My next item will be either the Vortex Viper spotting scope or the Vulture binoculars 8x56. Fabulous product for the price!!! Bloody marvelous!!!
 
I'm waiting to get my hands on the Razor HDs. I own Razor 10X42s now and love em, but I've spent time looking through a number of different swaros.

Swarovski was better, just by a little bit. But if they've bumped up the glass for the new Razor HDs then they might have something thats really putting the hurt on swarovski.
 
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