Another RCMP Memo?
- Thread starter mmattockx
- Start date
10/22
This came about several weeks ago,try and buy a 30 rd. butler creek mag...every store in Calgary has pulled them and replaced with 10/30 versions.read the bag "clip 3 together for 30 rds."
There has been no change to the law,its the same law that lets us use RRA Lar 15 mags in rifles.Catch22...The Ruger Chalenger is a commonly avail. pistol in Canada therefor mags limited to 10rds. not all rimfire are affected,theres no Rem 597 pistol yet(just an example..not an inclusive list)
As stated previously the shooting community will need to take up the issue with MP's after the election. Perhaps we should forget about the ruger restriction and have all magazines returned to their normal Capacity. There are enough restrictions on many firearms that mag capacity should no longer be a way of restricting. to many laws make things confusing and an effective tool for CFC/RCMP to charge people for now becoming evil do'ers. Fight for restoring normal cap. in all firearms. Just my $0.02 worth.
This came about several weeks ago,try and buy a 30 rd. butler creek mag...every store in Calgary has pulled them and replaced with 10/30 versions.read the bag "clip 3 together for 30 rds."
There has been no change to the law,its the same law that lets us use RRA Lar 15 mags in rifles.Catch22...The Ruger Chalenger is a commonly avail. pistol in Canada therefor mags limited to 10rds. not all rimfire are affected,theres no Rem 597 pistol yet(just an example..not an inclusive list)
As stated previously the shooting community will need to take up the issue with MP's after the election. Perhaps we should forget about the ruger restriction and have all magazines returned to their normal Capacity. There are enough restrictions on many firearms that mag capacity should no longer be a way of restricting. to many laws make things confusing and an effective tool for CFC/RCMP to charge people for now becoming evil do'ers. Fight for restoring normal cap. in all firearms. Just my $0.02 worth.
lineofsight
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Lower Mainland, BC
Issue is what is the mag originally designed for... the original Ruger 10/22 was a rifle... the mags were designed for a rifle.
Opposite with CX4, mags were originally designed for a pistol, hence use of 10 round pistol mags in rifle (and the issue with the "Storm" marked mags as those were designed for a rifle not pistol).
Opposite with CX4, mags were originally designed for a pistol, hence use of 10 round pistol mags in rifle (and the issue with the "Storm" marked mags as those were designed for a rifle not pistol).
I will ask what if?
What if I am someone who took the Canadian Firearms Safety course, In that course you learned that no restrictions on rimfire mag limit for rifles. You bought yourself a nice .22 rifle and have some 25, 30 or 50 round drum mags for it, all bought legally in Canada from Canadian retailers. You don't visit this website.
If any big policy change comes you would think they would have to send registered letters out to all owners of .22 rifles stating this new interpretation of the law. Might as well use that 2 billion dollar registry for something. But then again this is Canadian Firearms laws, and the RCMP which are all backwards.
What if I am someone who took the Canadian Firearms Safety course, In that course you learned that no restrictions on rimfire mag limit for rifles. You bought yourself a nice .22 rifle and have some 25, 30 or 50 round drum mags for it, all bought legally in Canada from Canadian retailers. You don't visit this website.
If any big policy change comes you would think they would have to send registered letters out to all owners of .22 rifles stating this new interpretation of the law. Might as well use that 2 billion dollar registry for something. But then again this is Canadian Firearms laws, and the RCMP which are all backwards.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Until I get a letter in the mail or a phone call from the CFC I don't believe anything I read on the internet!
If this is some kind of policy now they must inform the owners of these changes.
I have not been informed of any such changes as of yet, and an internet post is far from an official notification.
If this is some kind of policy now they must inform the owners of these changes.
I have not been informed of any such changes as of yet, and an internet post is far from an official notification.
Well, thanks to the wonderful registry they know exactly what rifles you have... you'd think they should at least notify everyone individually by letter who is affected.
I don't believe that the RCMP are doing that for the M&P 15/22 mags and they are very clearly now limited to 10 rounds from the original 25. Ignorance of the law is no excuse unless you are a cop.
Mark
Now, that's a keeper!
I posted in the other thread a couple links showing TI mags as being designed and sold with pistols. I'd be more careful with those than the BC ones.
Add: It was an even earlier thread
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5563339&postcount=112
Add: It was an even earlier thread
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5563339&postcount=112
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Difference this is not the law! It is a ruling made that goes against previously held positions on these mags.
I am pretty sure I have read about owners receiving notifications on the MP 15/22 mags, same as the classification changes to the guns that have been reclassified, such as the Rossi Backpacker. I have seen the Rossi letter personally.
There would be no way in which a reasonable person would know of such changes without some sort of correspondence or notification directly from the RCMP on this issue.
Interestingly enough I see a few BC mags popping up in the EE already. LOL
Who says all my 22s are registered? There's still an amnesty. Most cops around my area would never no the difference anyway and there budgets are so pressed when and if they were to look it up they'd only find the previous laws so I'm not worried
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Mmattockx siad it Ignorance is no excuss...however the owness is upon you to inform yourself of changes. The registry and all associated laws are orriented to persecute not encourage compliance. These laws are written as such to IMO be cloudy and hopefully catch you breaking them to further the "anti" or NATO backed public disarming of public.
I can see the headlines now "Local man charged for having prohibited devices under firearms act---may face 10 year imprisonment" The story will go on to say an automatic assualt type rifle seized along with prohibited high capacity magazines. In reality it will be some farmer and his sons out plinking gophers with a SR22. We all know how this will play out in the media.
I would like to see someone(more knowledgeable about laws and better spoken than I) beat the anti's to the punch and launch a national letter to editor campaign educating the public to the persecution of firearms owners in Canada. The newly created 2 million criminals at large in Canada
Mmattockx siad it Ignorance is no excuss...however the owness is upon you to inform yourself of changes. The registry and all associated laws are orriented to persecute not encourage compliance. These laws are written as such to IMO be cloudy and hopefully catch you breaking them to further the "anti" or NATO backed public disarming of public.
I can see the headlines now "Local man charged for having prohibited devices under firearms act---may face 10 year imprisonment" The story will go on to say an automatic assualt type rifle seized along with prohibited high capacity magazines. In reality it will be some farmer and his sons out plinking gophers with a SR22. We all know how this will play out in the media.
I would like to see someone(more knowledgeable about laws and better spoken than I) beat the anti's to the punch and launch a national letter to editor campaign educating the public to the persecution of firearms owners in Canada. The newly created 2 million criminals at large in Canada
I dont believe the article was about the 10/22 bc mags. I dont believe they are stupid enough to make a couple million criminals overnight by the stroke of some law passed without anyones knowledge or warning. This is Kanada though and I have been proven wrong on a few things.lol. It just gets better for the law abiding, it almost pays nowadays to be a criminal. fvck me.
- Location
- Sudbury, On
I think half our problems is enough of us had our nuts tied into the belief that you shouldn't speak to media if arrested.
Like hell I won't. I'll call them up myself.
Major Sights
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Westlock, AB
Got off the phone with Miriamichi about an hour ago, this new memo DOES NOT affect 10/22 mags. According to the person I was talking to anyway, she hadn't even heard of a new memo going out yet (as though I am surprised...)
Ok, so it's STILL legal to use 25 round magazines in the Charger? In this case you're using RIFLE rimfire magazines that HAPPEN to fit in a certain pistol. If the Charger was marketed with a 25 round Butler Creek mag then the 25 round mag would be prohib. But since it (the Charger) is marketed and sold with the 10 shot rotary mag, the Butler Creek (and all other aftermarket brands of 10/22 mags) is good to go in the Charger?
Am I understanding this right?
That's just the reverse of the LAR mag situation. Using pistol mags of a capacity greater than 5 that happen to "fit" in a rifle. As long as they're marketed as pistol mags and not rifle mags.
Stoopid goddamn laws.
Am I understanding this right?
That's just the reverse of the LAR mag situation. Using pistol mags of a capacity greater than 5 that happen to "fit" in a rifle. As long as they're marketed as pistol mags and not rifle mags.
Stoopid goddamn laws.
Ok, so it's STILL legal to use 25 round magazines in the Charger? In this case you're using RIFLE rimfire magazines that HAPPEN to fit in a certain pistol. If the Charger was marketed with a 25 round Butler Creek mag then the 25 round mag would be prohib. But since it (the Charger) is marketed and sold with the 10 shot rotary mag, the Butler Creek (and all other aftermarket brands of 10/22 mags) is good to go in the Charger?
Am I understanding this right?
That's just the reverse of the LAR mag situation. Using pistol mags of a capacity greater than 5 that happen to "fit" in a rifle. As long as they're marketed as pistol mags and not rifle mags.
Stoopid goddamn laws.
Stupid is not even the word friend. The laws are rtarded at best.
But in answer to your question.=NO you cannot use the bc's in the charger.(I think)lol.
Any mag in any pistol in Canada can only have 10 rnds regardless.
I think you are wrong friend.
Mags can be prohibited. Pistols can be prohibited. I've never heard or seen of any laws that says putting a non-prohibited mag into a non-prohibited pistol suddenly makes the combination of the two into a prohibited weapon.
Ar180shooter
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Ottawa, ON
No. NONONONONO!!!
If you don't know the answer, don't open your mouth.
If the magazine is unregulated (not a prohibited device), it can be used in whichever firearm it happens to work in. The BC mags were originally designed for use in the Ruger 10/22 rifle, so they are unregulated. The fact that they work in a Ruger Charger is irrelevant.
This is why we can use G17 mags in the Sub 2000, Beretta 92 mags in the CX4 and LAR 15 mags in the AR-15. It is dependent on which firearm the magazine was originally designed for, not what it is actually used in.
The S&W M&P 15-22 mags are limited to 10 rounds because they were designed to be used in both a rifle and a pistol... so the pistol magazine regulations apply.
Yup.
