Moose shot at 1100 yards

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Ethics
I figure everyone's been behaving themselves rather well so far considering nobody have even mentioned the ethics of shooting moose with shotguns or baiting bears.Both hunting styles being illegal where this moose was shot since the CO 's here consider that behavior to be unethical and have laws passed against it even though it is an accepted practice in eastern provinces.

 

[bearkilr]

Actually you explained not much , you have however trashed someone else ..... 35 pages worth, and anyone else that didn't agree with you. Live and let live ....... here let me explain it to you , you have your ethics, he has his , i have mine , etc...... each of us has the RIGHT to decide for ourself what is/isn't ethical, right ? so what is ethical for you isn't necessarily for me, qwith me here ? doesn't make you right or wrong , doesn't make him right or wrong , each of us has their own interpretation , , it's not rocket science here . I personally believe that to each their own, , some believe high fence hunting is wrong , so do i, UNLESS there are a few thousand acres for X animals and X hunters , if the animal can fairly elude and get rest and relax for a few days I think it's ok, others think no way any way . See what I mean ? you believe the shot shouldn't have been done , so do a few others , whereas a few agree , he did good , and it seems thru 35 pages , so did a few others. y'all made your points , nobody is going to change their opinions . Yall are beating a dead horse , to pulp ! Ethical , schmethical , the beast is dead , nobody ran thru the forest looking for wounded beasties , all ends well. It doesn't always end well , on a close shot either , and folks chase beasties thru the forest , was that less ethical ? or more ethical ? To each their own, live and let live ! get it now ?????

I haven't "trashed" anyone. We're having a friendly debate here, there's been no name calling or otherwise. After all, isn't that what these forums are all about? Discussions? Having a discussion is good, as is having an opinion.
There are lots of threads on CGN I don't respond to for whatever reason. Basically, if you don't like what someone is posting, you can ignore it or respond in a civil fashion if you don't agree. If you're in favour of a more restrictive voicing of one's opinion, move to China.

When the mods decide this thread is dead, which will probably be soon, rest assured it will get locked down. Have a nice day.

 

[greywolf]

hit a nerve did i ? oops my bad

I haven't "trashed" anyone. We're having a friendly debate here, there's been no name calling or otherwise. After all, isn't that what these forums are all about? Discussions? Having a discussion is good, as is having an opinion.
There are lots of threads on CGN I don't respond to for whatever reason. Basically, if you don't like what someone is posting, you can ignore it or respond in a civil fashion if you don't agree. If you're in favour of more restrictive voicing of one's opinion, move to China.

When the mods decide this thread is dead, which will probably be soon, rest assured it will get locked down. Have a nice day.

 

[greywolf]

"you "meant all of you that pounced on the OP , not you personally , duh !

 

[none]

On the other hand it's not considered unethical to have a spring bear hunt here.
Thats the problem with having my ethics imposed verses all the other incorrect peoples out there.

 

[bearkilr]

"you "meant all of you that pounced on the OP , not you personally , duh !

After 1400 posts you should know that when you quote a previous poster's reply in your reply, you're generally referring to that poster.

No worries, and no nerve to hit. I don't get offended easily and certainly never by opinions of others on an internet forum.

 

[greywolf]

i get sloppy at times ..... carpal tunnel, real bad.... i try to shorten a thought sometimes and get it wrong , try to save a bit of typing gets me in plllt at times

After 1400 posts you should know that when you quote a previous poster's reply in your reply, you're generally referring to that poster.

No worries, and no nerve to hit. I don't get offended easily and certainly never by opinions of others on an internet forum.

 

[Gatehouse]

There are ways to get closer. Sneak along the shoreline. Personally I wouldn't try to approach by boat for fear of spooking him.
I would also not consider it very sportsmanlike, or "ethical" if you will, to drive up and shoot from the boat.
As I said in an earlier post, legal and ethical don't necessarily go hand in hand.

How about if he drove his boat up, beached it fairly close, dismounted, and shot the moose?

The reason I am asking this is because that is the way so many guys hunt moose and bear and even deer. Drive a road, see an animal, jump out and shoot it.

Ethics get into muddy waters real fast....

 

[bearkilr]

How about if he drove his boat up, beached it fairly close, dismounted, and shot the moose?

The reason I am asking this is because that is the way so many guys hunt moose and bear and even deer. Drive a road, see an animal, jump out and shoot it.

Ethics get into muddy waters real fast....

Could be some legalities involved as well. Here in MB it's illegal to hunt from a vehicle, so technically driving a boat up to a moose you spotted from the boat would be considered hunting from a vehicle, even if all motion caused by the motor has ceased when the actual shot is taken.

 

[greywolf]

Could be some legalities involved as well. Here in MB it's illegal to hunt from a vehicle, so technically driving a boat up to a moose you spotted from the boat would be considered hunting from a vehicle, even if all motion caused by the motor has ceased when the actual shot is taken.

nope , in MB here it is Legal to shoot from a boat , so long as all motion caused by the motor has ceased ! it's right in the regs, if you paddled the boat ur good to go , if you motored up , ur good to go as soon as movement stops from the time you kill the engine

 

[Sardaukar]

On one side there's a guy eating a delicious moose that he shot from 1100 yards, on the other a bunch of pissy jealous SOBs whining for 350 posts on an internet forum.

Guess who wins.

 

[Redfrog]

"Point blank head shot. Now what could be more ethical? " I have concerns about the fiberglass handle. Wouldn't it be more ethical with a wooden handle, or better yet one made from antler?


"On one side there's a guy eating a delicious moose that he shot from 1100 yards, on the other a bunch of pissy jealous SOBs whining for 350 posts on an internet forum."

I just hope he brought enough for everyone.

Did anyone notice if the guys who are upset are the same guys it takes 14 to share a tag?

 

[bearkilr]

nope , in MB here it is Legal to shoot from a boat , so long as all motion caused by the motor has ceased ! it's right in the regs, if you paddled the boat ur good to go , if you motored up , ur good to go as soon as movement stops from the time you kill the engine

Not true. While it's unlikely you'd get convicted, it's technically illegal and I've heard of people being charged under this.

As per regulation:

It is illegal to hunt from a vehicle. For example, a vehicle may not be used to search for, locate, "push bush" or to flush out game under any circumstances. Vehicles may only be used to transport hunters, supplies or equipment to or from a hunting area. In most, but not all areas, vehicles may be used to retrieve a big game kill by the most direct route.

A vehicle is any mechanical device propelled or driven by any means other than human power and includes cars, trucks, powerboats, aircraft and off-road vehicles (ORVs).

A power boat is not a vehicle if the motor is not in operation and all progress caused by the motor has stopped.



In other words, if you're cruising a river with the boat under power of the motor and spot a moose, even if you shut down the motor and wait to fire until all action caused by it has stopped, you're technically breaking the law.

 

[KodiakHntr]

Not true. While it's unlikely you'd get convicted, it's technically illegal and I've heard of people being charged under this.

As per regulation:



A power boat is not a vehicle if the motor is not in operation and all progress caused by the motor has stopped.

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In other words, if you're cruising a river with the boat under power of the motor and spot a moose, even if you shut down the motor and wait to fire until all action caused by it has stopped, you're technically breaking the law.

Uhhmmm....
Not that I have a dog in THIS fight, doesn't this reg state its legal?

 

[old hound]

Well, you old hound dog, we are singing from the same song sheet.
I too, grew up in a land of cows and horses, elk and moose. I remember a nice colt that got his back broke just ahead of his hips. The reaction was exactly the same as the moose in the picture.
And when someone said the moose was shot in the hump, my immediate thought was, no way. As you say, a moose shot in the spine in the hump area, can't move his front quarters.
Someone on here critisized someone else for saying he wouldn't change his opnion. My friend, there is no such thing as a right or wrong opinion. An opinion is his, or yours or mine. My opinion is my thoughts on a certain situation. If I have firm reason to form an opinion, I too, will not change it, just because someone thinks it is "wrong."
In my opinion, this whole thing of shooting the moose at about 1100 yards away, was a gimmick, designed to get a video on the world wide net.

well we live in a great land and are a very fortunate people, although we argue a lot sometimes.
Your right about opinions, and sometimes their worth about as much as they cost.

 

[bearkilr]

Uhhmmm....
Not that I have a dog in THIS fight, doesn't this reg state its legal?

Here's the line that'll get you:

......a vehicle may not be used to search for, locate.......

 

[CROWCA]

If you are driving to your hunting area and see game on the way it is illegal to hunt said game???????

 

[Gatehouse]

Could be some legalities involved as well. Here in MB it's illegal to hunt from a vehicle, so technically driving a boat up to a moose you spotted from the boat would be considered hunting from a vehicle, even if all motion caused by the motor has ceased when the actual shot is taken.

The 1100 yard moose in question was in BC.

Guys *do* dismount their ATV or truck and shoot at animals, sometimes hurriedly and offhand. This could result in a poor hit. Again, the ethics water is muddy

 

[KodiakHntr]

Here's the line that'll get you:

......a vehicle may not be used to search for, locate.......

Problem is that is that your reg specifically states that a powerboat ceases to be a vehicle when its no longer under power and all power generated motion has ceased..........

So it would be legal to power up, and float down.

 

[bearkilr]

Problem is that is that your reg specifically states that a powerboat ceases to be a vehicle when its no longer under power and all power generated motion has ceased..........

So it would be legal to power up, and float down.

Correct. However, if you were using the motor when you spotted the moose or used it to drive the boat to the moose, you are hunting from a vehicle as per the regulations.
Stepping out of your vehicle after spotting a deer in the field and subsequently shooting, guys have gotten charged for hunting from a vehicle. We're not talking about shooting from a vehicle, that's a different offence.
This takes place in BC so I'm not sure on the regs there, but generally vehicle use for hunting is more restrictive than other provinces.