Anybody ever have this happen?

[BattleRife]

I was loading some .38 Special brass that I acquired in a trade and had a new issue pop up:

The decapping pin went right through the primers and punched the anvil out the back without budging the primer in the pocket. I was loading on a Hornady progressive so the extruded metal locked up the shellplate tight. I had to clear the shellplate and remove the retaining bolt to get the cases out again. I can't imagine how the primers are stuck in there that firmly?

 

[Hunter1970]

Wow, is that primer sealant that is around the primers?

 

[ATOM]

oooh.

Never seen anything like it. Did you sharpen that thing in a pencil sharpener?

 

[Canuck223]

Yep, it happens. I call them ringers. They seem to be caused either by corrosion between the case and primer, or headspacing issues combined with lower chamber pressure. In the latter case, the primer often pops the whole top, leaving a tube in the primer pocket.

 

[joe-nwt]

Yep, it happens. I call them ringers. They seem to be caused either by corrosion between the case and primer, or headspacing issues combined with lower chamber pressure. In the latter case, the primer often pops the whole top, leaving a tube in the primer pocket.

I've had quite a few just like that, tube in the primer pocket. Always nickel brass too.

 

[Nathan231]

Ouch.

 

[tigrr]

+P cases are probably glued in!!

 

[hitch.bd]

I've had a few like that in the nickle plated as well.

 

[blacksmithden]

That's a new one to me. I'm thinking you'll be buying some new brass soon

 

[CRAZYLOCH]

I think i see Red Lock Tite!!!!

 

[mlehtovaara]

Defensive +P ammo sealed to ensure 100% reliability in any weather?

 

[northmedic2075]

I think i see Red Lock Tite!!!!

it sure looks THAT way I bet money it is Red lock tight

Right Up there with a friend of mine who his neighbor Helped with some BLACK lock tight on the Drain plug of his Harley .

 

[ciPeterF]

Takes just a little moisture and the primers will literally weld themselves into the case..

 

[Brutus]

I think i see Red Lock Tite!!!!

My first guess would be the factory primer sealant used to waterproof the primer pocket. Military brass and law enforcement ammunition, more often than not, have this in the first place. My stash of Winchester +Ps have exactly this.

 

[Ganderite]

I have had it happen a few times recently while decapping once fired brass. can't recall what caliber, but it was not 38.

 

[BattleRife]

That's a new one to me. I'm thinking you'll be buying some new brass soon

I think that would be going overboard. I got 900 cases in the trade and have loaded up about 700 of them, these were the only two that had a problem. I think my shooting will survive the 3% attrition rate.

 

[Brutus]

red loctite......you guys are killing me

 

[Miltiades]

Takes just a little moisture and the primers will literally weld themselves into the case..

I agree. I have had only once such a problem and only with Federal once fired .45 ACP brass. I wrote to Federal and they also suspected the brass had been exposed to humidity or water enough so that the primers corroded a little and "welded" in. I must have reloaded over 200000 cases in my life, majority 9 mm and .45, but only these few Federal cases had this problem.

 

[sunray]

Had that happen with a big pile of 9mm gathered from a CF range after the TO ETF had used the range and didn't bother to clean up their brass. Decapper popped the end of the primer right off and left the rest in the pocket.
Primers are likely lacquered in vs Lock-Tite.

 

[Robert McNamera]

Yeah I've seen that phenomenon a few times, always with nickel plated brass, always Winchester. You have a couple of things you can do here.

One: pitch the cases (goes against the Scottish/Jewish in me)

Two: Warm up the case bases (I use a propane torch) just enough to melt the sealer/red gunk that is holding the primers in. Go easy with the torch! If the shiny silver of the cases discolors, you're waaay too hot. Then, with the cases still warm to hot, run 'em through your decapping die.

I have saved and reused a goodly number of cases doing it this way.

Regards,

Robert McNamera