Found a Gew.98 scope in the U.S., import permit required ?

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I was contacted by a seller in the U.S. who has a WW1 Gew.98 scope who would like to sell to me. I checked the U.S. and Canadian laws and could not find any classification or restriction for scopes or optics or that they require a permit for export from the U.S. Can anyone confirm ?

Thanks!
 
CanAm said:
No import permit for sure, but your exporter will likely need an export permit. Call the dept of state and ask.
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I think the only hurdle they could get me on is that scope would be a minor component possibily declared at $100 USD or greater ?
 
I will check the munitons list tonight when I get home from work, thanks for the tip.

I have heard of horror stories with bringing some items over the border, stuff that you wouldn't think has a permit requirement, and it either goes missing or is confiscated for some reason. I have not had any issues with bringing stuff over the border (stocks, minor components for Category I firearms...etc) but with this scope in mind, I would hate to overlook something in the legal text and loose it.
 
The issue is not import into Canada, it is export from the United States.
CBSA will cheerfully collect taxes.
 
Coyote Ugly said:
Email Questar for the answer.
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I'll give that a try, lets hope the answer is positive.

tiriaq said:
CBSA will cheerfully collect taxes.
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Buggers, they did that with one of my Gewehr 98 stocks I got from the U.S. though I was quite happy to have the stock in the end.

I checked the U.S. Munitions list for 2010 and could not find any mention of "telescopic sights or scopes". I checked CBSA regulations and the RCMP website and there is also no mention of telescopic sights requiring any permit (or mention of telescopic sights at all for that matter).

I also had a look through the U.S. Department of State's "GUIDELINES FOR...FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION" and could find no mention of telescopic sights/scopes requiring an export permit.

I think the only item that would apply is the "$100 or less, no permit, for a minor/exempted component".

In any event, I will contact Questar and get a straight answer.

Thank you for the brainstorming gents!
 
Midway was exporting scopes without export paperwork, and was fined $1000 per scope for about 500 scopes. Had to pay half, the other half was left hanging over them, should they stray from the straight and narrow. Scopes are definitely covered by US export controls.
 
tiriaq said:
Midway was exporting scopes without export paperwork, and was fined $1000 per scope for about 500 scopes. Had to pay half, the other half was left hanging over them, should they stray from the straight and narrow. Scopes are definitely covered by US export controls.
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I guess that's why Numrich dont sell the original Mosin and SVT scope to canada?
 
tiriaq said:
Midway was exporting scopes without export paperwork, and was fined $1000 per scope for about 500 scopes. Had to pay half, the other half was left hanging over them, should they stray from the straight and narrow. Scopes are definitely covered by US export controls.
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Damn I was hoping it would be simple. Oh well, it will be worth paying the paperwork fee at Questar for this Gewehr 98 scope.

Thanks for letting me know.
 
Might be simpler to source one from Europe.

Find out how long the wait is (days, weeks, or one year?) from BATF when a scope goes from US to Canada!
 
Coyote Ugly said:
Might be simpler to source one from Europe.

Find out how long the wait is (days, weeks, year?) from BATF when a scope goes from US to Canada!
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I got a replacement Gewehr 98 barrel from the U.S. with the help of Questar. Took longer than one would expect (1.5 months from when I sent the money to the seller to when the barrel showed up on my door thereabouts). I'm in no rush to receive this scope as I must find a suitable candidate Gewehr 98 to be converted into a sniper clone. The 1905 Danzig I have been working on is back in full military configuration with her straight bolt again so I can't use her at the moment.
 
I have imported several scopes from the US.

You need a Canadian Import Permit (EXCOL) to send to the US Dealer who need that as proof when applying for his US Export Permit (End Use Permit).

The Canadians don't care so much but the US Government does.

When I was nieve I used to order scopes without, Canada Customs was more than happy to chare me the duty and GST and to let it through, but if the US found it, they could have confiscated it.

I like to do things by the rules now, especially since I know them now.
 
Thanks! I think I can send that EXCOL document to the seller and he could mail the package with document to Questar who would apply for the U.S. export permit ?

I wonder if including the EXCOL will reduce the permit charge at Questar ? For that matter, I wonder how much it would cost. My barrel fee was about $100 [actually $88 !] with shipping to my door included.
 
Just one point; EXCOL generates an IIC (international Import Certificate) not an import permit. An import permit is not required for scopes, or most guns.
 
I thought the EXCOL would be related to an IIC. I had one ready for my Gewehr 98 stock a few months ago just incase things got hairy at the border with U.S. Customs but I wasn't asked for it at the time.

I sent an e-mail to Questar and I expect a reply by tomorrow at the earliest. I will post their reply here for others to read upon.
 
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