Norinco M-14 first use

[carbonrod]

I hear these things are accurate out to 800+ yards? I'd like to get into long range shooting. Any suggestions on optics that would be good to that kind of range? I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to optics so any input would be very much appreciated.

Well, we have a 900m range, but I recommend trying the short track out to 500m first. They are a challenging platform to make work well at long distances. At any of our matches, you'll have indicated shots at 200-500m though. Once you get all the hits there, moving back is an option.

If you do want to scope it, ARMS, and Smith make decent mounts. Some rifles work with some mounts better then others. Some rifles are out of spec, and don't take the mounts well. The smith mounts sit higher, which can help if your brass is hitting your rings, or you use things like ADM/Larue mounts. The ARMS is nice an low so you aren't too far off the bore. Either way, you will probably need a cheepeice of some kind.

 

[TACTICAL111]

any input would be very much appreciated

Optics will unfortunately also involve a mount of which there are many.
I have the ARMS 18, which is pricey, but is very well made and sturdy.
Have shot many rounds through the rig and it has never come loose.
(You may need to trim the bolt extractor & ejector springs or swap for USGI with the ARMS 18 mount)
With mine 1 out of 50 times an empty case would jam between the op-rod and chamber. Takes 5 minutes to do and for new springs cost $15.
No biggie.

Moving on to scopes. For my purposes (300 yrd range) I find a 4-12X is about perfect.
I use the Redfield brand (made by Leupold)
It cost 289 + tax and is outstanding in quality and durability.
No issues with taking the pounding of a semi 308.
Glass is extremely good, clear, and very bright.

Other than that it comes down to what kind of reticle you like.
I would highly recommend some type of mill dot system so you can set up the rifle for 100,200,300 etc and be able to move between distances quickly and accurately.

Hope that helps. Check out Redfield, it's really good stuff

 

[Travis Bickle]

Sounds easy enough.. if you cant dry inside the heard to reach areas tho will it cause rust? How long do you leave it in boiling water for? should i leave the pot boiling on the stove when i dump the stuff in or take it off?

thanks again!

The oil will displace any water in hard to reach areas after you boil the cosmo/packing grease off in water.
Just make sure you use liberal amounts of oil after you boil the parts clean.
I guess I should follow suit and just start rambling off random parts to clean and what I specificaly do when I clean cosmo/packing grease to show everyone how awesome I am....
Now where is that eye-rolling emoticon?....

 

[SoBored]

Optics for around $700? One option would be to look at a ARMS 18 or Sadlak steel mount and a Falcon Menace 4-14x, (avail from SFRC and others). That's what I'd do.

 

[carbonrod]

The oil will displace any water in hard to reach areas after you boil the cosmo/packing grease off in water.
Just make sure you use liberal amounts of oil after you boil the parts clean.
I guess I should follow suit and just start rambling off random parts to clean and what I specificaly do when I clean cosmo/packing grease to show everyone how awesome I am....
Now where is that eye-rolling emoticon?....

If that was directed at me, the OP had already finished before I got back. Either way, have a good un.

 

[king cobra]

i would be reluctant to put an optics that would be more expensive than the gun itself... but on the other hand...should your gun go dead on you... at least you can salvage the optics on to a new one..

 

[carbonrod]

i would be reluctant to put an optics that would be more expensive than the gun itself

Why? I don't think the 2 are related. When I scope mine, I either use a NF 2.5-10x24, a leupold 3.5-10, or an Aimpoint. There are piles of good scope out there at all kinds of price points though.

I generally find that the irons on the m14 are just fine though.

 

[redivivus]

i would be reluctant to put an optics that would be more expensive than the gun itself... but on the other hand...should your gun go dead on you... at least you can salvage the optics on to a new one..

If your gun "goes dead" then I suggest you charge it up!