Farewell Sweet, Sweet Krink
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Pulling off the CZ mag to was just a matter of drilling out the spot welds and some gentle persuasion
. Less of an issue as the holes it leaves make a good anchor point for the binder. Once enough material has been removed for the bakelite to fit just make sure to roughen up enough of a binding surface. I actually etched some slots on the inside of the mag to add surface area for the bind. Its definately more art and experimentation than science I assure you.In this case I used Devcon Plastic Welder II for the binder as I wasn't sure what the makeup of the bakelite material was and I've had good luck with the Devcon product. If it can hold pieces of a reciever together over thousands of rounds and cleaning then it should be able to handle a mag (albiet I did give it lots of time to reach full cure before putting any spring tension onto it)
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Pulling off the CZ mag to was just a matter of drilling out the spot welds and some gentle persuasion
In this case I used Devcon Plastic Welder II for the binder as I wasn't sure what the makeup of the bakelite material was and I've had good luck with the Devcon product. If it can hold pieces of a reciever together over thousands of rounds and cleaning then it should be able to handle a mag (albiet I did give it lots of time to reach full cure before putting any spring tension onto it)
And it feeds?
You may have just started a new cottage industry.
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I didn't this time as I was going for an appearance over function. However if you wanted to you could cut a slot in the rear right of the mag to accomodate the bolt hold open latch. It would require adding a tab to the follower to replicate the CZ mag function, but its definately doable
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They're availible in the states, but unless I have to I try not to do anything out of the states, until they get over the whole zenophobic Mother Russia-type border BS they've been spewing out recently. Theres a few lads sending items out of England, Russia and the Ukraine. Gunbroker is a PITA on this side of the border, has been for me anyway. There are a few select lads that will ship out of the States but for most its more trouble for them than its worth.
I did mine piece by piece over about 4 months. Some ebay, some from other AK forum marketplaces, some from Europe and a couple pieces from State-side. I believe kits are availble but pricy and a bit rare as they are gobbled up by those who run AKs in the States. When I have to deal stateside I've found importing piece by piece less of a PITA than dealing with paperwork for items over $100. Sometime more expensive due to increased shipping though...
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Just because I've already got the financial and emotional investment into this, and that Wolverine spotted me a decent deal on an 11.75" carbine to compenstate for standing in line for months (something they didn't have to do as it wasn't their fault which speaks volumes to the customer service at Wolverine
), I've got to wondering about a new barrel for a while until the carbine gets here.So now questions are starting to crop up as the possibility that the Krink could, maybe, just maybe, still happen...
Just what twist would it take to stabilize a 7.62x39 round in 7.5"? As it turns out the Krinks require a 1 in 6 twist rate POST EDIT Actually scratch that as the Krink is a 5.45 diameter round so this rate may not apply.
And how does a CZ barrel come off?
Or perhaps maybe just a shroud in the shape of a PBS-1 like so to take up the extra barrel length. Scratch that, wouldn't work due to the gas and sight. Frig!
Gas opening dimension would be larger? smaller maybe?; And what opening dimension and twist rate does an actual Krink barrel use?
This may be fun yet
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Finally got some time tonight to do a little fitting. It'll take a bit more but there's light at the end of the tunnel
I'm trying to decide whether to keep the folding stock spine or cut the spine off and attempt to weld directly to the folding mechanism. It's coming though...
Have to wait on a M14x1 rh tap but aside from that its should be just a bit of welding, some front sight work and other little bits to be range ready
I'm trying to decide whether to keep the folding stock spine or cut the spine off and attempt to weld directly to the folding mechanism. It's coming though...
Have to wait on a M14x1 rh tap but aside from that its should be just a bit of welding, some front sight work and other little bits to be range ready
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If the old cover is underneath it should, but it looks like a dremel with a cutting disc will need to be used to cut away for bolt handle travel. There is no way those sights line up. Krink handguards go in, not bulge out. However, this is the sweetest thing I've seen all year.
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Good eye, and you're partially right. That's the whole "fitment" that will be this weekend. The top cover attaches over the CZ top cover which clears the bolt. Some room will have to be made so the bolt handle can clear and and attachment point up front but I'm 'optomistic'
All true... I actually am considering removing the dust cover attachment point (and springs) off the 858 and permanently attaching them to the Krink to lower the profile. Once it's tied to the front end it'd be solid. The front sight has to be raised or replaced outright... it's on the list. As for the Krink handguards I'm pooched due to the barrel length. I have them (for when I was on the list for a Compact which fell through) but had to get replacement for a full size AK. It's that or rebarrel, perhaps with a Krink front sight, but that won't be by the weekend
So essentially I'll have to be happy with the 'flavour' of the Krink as realistically it could never be a clone. You shouldn't be able to mistake it for another 858 at the range though
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I've been toying with an idea similar to yours on getting a top cover to fit. Except I'm gonna use a plain AK top cover and use the original Cz sights for an AK 100 series look a like. Try and gently pry the krink top cover apart so that it sits lower on the receiver and drilling a hole for the rear takedown pin to pass thru. Some covers are sloppier than others. Look into extending the top cover (with a weld?) and making a notch for the topcover to fit under the rear sight. Maybe cutting two relief cuts on the rear of the topcover will help widen it, then fill in the cuts with a weld.
You might have a problem with case ejection as the cover may interfere with ejection unless the cover is cut or flared up top. Then again, it may just act as a case deflector.
If you use the krink cover with sight base on it then you won't be able to cut/flare much off if case ejection becomes a problem.
You might have a problem with case ejection as the cover may interfere with ejection unless the cover is cut or flared up top. Then again, it may just act as a case deflector.
If you use the krink cover with sight base on it then you won't be able to cut/flare much off if case ejection becomes a problem.
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Man... all that work (and expen$e) to convert an already overpriced com-block gun to another com-block gun, both of which probably cost under $100 to manufacture (I have two stock CZ-858s myself, by the way). And this is while brand new AKs sell for $300 in the good'ole US of A down south, sometimes fetching even less than SKSs.
Aren't we just special up here, "eh"?
P.S. Good luck on your project... I hope you succeed. It's just too bad we can't have the real thing, just because some Liberal f*cktard got scared of it in 1995 (while browsing through gun magazines with Wendy Cukier on Parliament Hill!)
Aren't we just special up here, "eh"?
P.S. Good luck on your project... I hope you succeed. It's just too bad we can't have the real thing, just because some Liberal f*cktard got scared of it in 1995 (while browsing through gun magazines with Wendy Cukier on Parliament Hill!)
Man... all that work (and expen$e) to convert an already overpriced com-block gun to another com-block gun, both of which probably cost under $100 to manufacture (I have two stock CZ-858s myself, by the way). And this is while brand new AKs sell for $300 in the good'ole US of A down south, sometimes fetching even less than SKSs.
Aren't we just special up here, "eh"?
P.S. Good luck on your project... I hope you succeed. It's just too bad we can't have the real thing, just because some Liberal f*cktard got scared of it in 1995 (while browsing through gun magazines with Wendy Cukier on Parliament Hill!)
We can only hope that sustained pressure will return the use ofthese iconic firearms to their properly licensed owners.
I got mine from TSE back in the 1990's. Various places in the US have them (check Shotgun News), but are probably now impossible to legally import.
I've successfully imported individual krink parts (not kits though) from Eastern Europe in the past. One place that comes to mind is Rus military dot com, but that was a while ago as well.
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Where have you been Sheeple? You're late for the party and we were all starting to wonder when the token donkeys would show up to bray.
Usually the Slack Jaw Yokels start bleating far sooner. Always crying about something... 'Whaaa, you destroying a piece of history' or 'Whaaa, its just fine like it is' or perhaps 'Whaaa, everybody should think the way I do, or else you're wrong because I'm right'.
So to review Sheeple, the VZ is a great platform, which is why I have several. This isn't about what you can have, its about what the other Slack Jaw Sheeple's say a responsible Canadian firearm owner can or more aptly can't own due to no other criteria except how it looked in a book when they pawed their cloven hooves thru an old edition of Guns and Ammo deciding what to prohibit. Its hopefully about pressing the boundries of law legally while exercising some individualism in the process.
So Comrade, toss on the Depends, turn on the Weather Channel, slide back into the easy chair and let others live thier own lives, kind of like my Grandfather died in WW2 protecting all of our rights to do. You keep yours bone stock, I'll adapt mine however I see fit and world will keep turning. If you send me your address I can mail you a box of tissues to help you through your teary eyed period of mourning... or whatever period you're currently experiencing for that matter.
Cry more, your tears are delicious
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Just curious... with or without optics? The wife prefers optics but I'm more a fan of the irons...
Short-barreled rifle, definitely not THAT optic! I did something similar with an 11" CSA, but not nearly as involved. I'll have to post a pic. LOVE the look with the AKSU top cover!
EDITED - here's mine. I obviously didn't attempt to replicate my AKS74U so much as build a tacticool version on a similar theme.
I did something similar with an 11" CSA, but not nearly as involved. I'll have to post a pic. LOVE the look with the AKSU top cover!EDITED - here's mine. I obviously didn't attempt to replicate my AKS74U so much as build a tacticool version on a similar theme.
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