how to reclassify my cz 858

[lone-wolf]

To cut down the barrel on an already restricted VZ58 would be easy in theory since the gunsmith wouldn't even need to take it off.

I think that would make it prohib.

 

[Satain]

Which one has the shorter gas system and why?

The problem facing the shorty 858's is that there is not enough preasure build up in the barrel to cycle the rifle's action. Hence why we are still waiting for the 7.5 inch barreled rifle's. Although to have a rifle's barrel between 11 to 12 inches is easy to do as you are not changing the original design of were the gas port is. The only modification that is required is to have the vent hole enlarged to make sure that it will still cycle all that metal part's of this rifles action. As even noticed on the AR platform when having an extremly short barrel for a semi-auto rifle. The cycling of the action can be quite problematic. As for the 858 and a 7.5 inch barrel I still think they will need to reduce the spring preasure increase the vent whole and also use different metal make up for the bolt carrier in order to cycle it properly. Hence why it is still in the R&D/testing phase as I am sure that the company who is producing it would like it to be as reliable as the other current platforms out the today with that same size barrel length's.

 

[P0WERWAGON]

and thats why a Krink has the funny muzzle device on the end of it. just to get it to work.

 

[Stevo]

Which one has the shorter gas system and why?

None of the currently available VZ variants have a shorter gas system.

The 7.5" model that CSA is working on does, but it's not at retail. I've read it's still having the bugs worked out. It needs a shorter gas system because that's the only way to make the gun work with that short of a barrel.

 

[mg4201]

I could be wrong but can't you just

have a smith permenantly attach a 3 inch flash hider

 

[P0WERWAGON]

how does a flash hider help with anything?

 

[lone-wolf]

flash hider doesn't add to overall length anymore. permanently attached or not.

 

[bfiles]

just buy a new 15" or 11.75" and be done with this. In the long run you wont really save any cash or time doing it. Just buy new.

 

[Ar180shooter]

have a smith permenantly attach a 3 inch flash hider

It doesn't work that way in Canada...

 

[ChrisCanada]

please explain to me how they would make it restricted or stop spewing this crap.

Hey this looks scary, lets prohibit it! It's an improved AK-47!!!

See guns like an AR-15 being placed on the restricted firearms list and many other guns being prohibited for no reason at all.

I mean, the FN-FAL (semi version) is prohibited and the M-14 (semi version) is non restricted. We may like to bicker about what one is better, but in reality they have identical capabilities as a weapon.

 

[bfiles]

just buy a new 15" or 11.75" and be done with this. In the long run you wont really save any cash or time doing it. Just buy new.

yeah yeah, he is right

 

[Wildbore]

What about barrel extensions?

 

[mg4201]

It doesn't work that way in Canada...

well, there you go, I learned something. have a good day sorry I couldn't help.

 

[X-man]

Sell the restricted one on the EE and buy a non-restricted 858. You might even be able to do a trade for a NR one.

Right now you have a restricted $700 gun... rebarrelling it will cost you $300+ and get you a non-restricted $700 gun...

Most sensible post in the thread. Sell it, get what you can and buy a non-restricted version. Or, keep it, and buy another in non-restricted format.

According to the RCMP's interpretation of our firearms laws, cutting an already manufactured barrel below 18.5 inches, even if the firearm is restricted, turns it into a prohibited firearm. Regardless of any other interpretation, it is the RCMP who will lay the charges, so...