Promag M1A/M305 Precision Stock PICTURE Review

Next batch of stocks are in the mail and hopefully, miss the postal strike.

Sorry, no ETA on the next batch but will contact those who are on the preorder list when stocks become available.

Enjoy...

Jerry
 
I got my stock a bit ago, I fit it to the rifle with the same 'trigger fitting' that most have had to deal with (about 5 min with a small file..... DON'T USE A DREMEL!!!!!! you will take out too much material). I found mine didn't require any other tweaking or fitting to make the rifle operate propperly. Other than that no issues whatsoever :eek:

I finally got it out to the range this last weekend. It seems to group a bit better than it did in the Chi-com furniture, so I'm pretty happy! w:h:

What a differance.... from stock form to after M14 Doc 'had his way with her' and then again after the stock was installed...... The differance from OEM to after it was tuned and what not from M-14 doc was amazing. This stock makes it just that much better.

The bit you see above the bi-pod in the last pic is the bumperpad from a Kimber 1911 mag. While the swing swivel did not impede the rifle in anyway (unlike the one other fella who had a problem) I found you couldn't use it to mount a bi-pod (I should use a rail adapter in any case) unless you 'shimmed' the front of the bi-pod........

Thanks a bunch Jerry for offering this product. Overall I am very impressed. Just FYI so is a 'namless' buddy...... Last year he dropped 1K(ish) on a JAE stock, now he wishes he hadn't.......

Now to just get a few more 'bits' to trim it all out.......

This is what she is;
2007 Nork M-305
Arms 18 mount
Bushnel 3200 3-9x50

Here's some '####' :ar15:

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Last year he dropped 1K(ish) on a JAE stock, now he wishes he hadn't.......
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Why?

His JAE has an aircraft aluminum/titanium skeleton (which makes it permanently bedded) plus the action can be removed from the stock whenever he wants as often as he wants.
And with options like the barrel tensioner etc....there is no comparison between the two.
 
TACTICAL111 said:
Why?

His JAE has an aircraft aluminum/titanium skeleton (which makes it permanently bedded) plus the action can be removed from the stock whenever he wants as often as he wants.
And with options like the barrel tensioner etc....there is no comparison between the two.
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Comparisons can be made.

Less weight and money means for many this new stock will be a winner specially if it is even close to the same accuracy potential!

It will be interesting to see a direct comparison of the two stocks with the same action.
 
i've spent some quality time with this new stock.
there are no comparisons that can be made between this stock and the true precision stocks.... such as sage and JAE.
the lock up features of the promag are the same as any standard m14 stock such as chinese or usgi. There is nothing precision about it except the molding method and that it has adjustable cheek and length of pull.

ergonomics are improved over standard stocks and this is a nice feature
the action inlet is very tight and this is also an excellent feature.
The tolerances of the inlet will benefit accuracy is some rifles, the same as a basic bedding job would in any other standard inlet m14 stock.

a precision rifle stock it is not..... if you are comparing it to the chassis stocks that are true precision rigs.
what you get with the promag is cool ergonomics, adjustable cheek and LOP and the look cool factor.
I would say in all honesty that for the price point, you are getting what you pay for and with the promag archangel stock, the quality of the precision molding is probably worth the price tag.


I have been talking with a few owners of these stocks and am finding that most guys are skipping a CRUCIAL step in making these "chinese rifle compatable"
I show it in another thread and i think in this one as well.
the right side rear top surface MUST be milled or filed to correctly fit your action and i keep hearin..... "mine fit fine, i didn't have to mill anything off the top at the rear". This stock i'm afraid is improperly fitted and your receiver is actually sitting high on the right hand side, regardless of correct trigger lock up. For those insisting that thier promag is a "precision" rifle stock and have not done this mandatory mod...... think again ;)

if you want a true precision rifle stock, buy a sage or a real JAE.
if you want a quality, affordable stock that does improve ergonomics and has some extra features built in...... the promag is a good choice.
 
Hey Doc, What would you guess the difference in actual accuracy performance between a precision stock and a well bedded USGI?
I can see the advantage if you are removing the action often but I'm curious beyond that if most shooters will notice a difference out to 400 yards or so?
Any chance you can do a comparison with a well tuned action/barrel down the road with a precision stock compared to a well bedded USGI and a well fit Archangel?
 
True it may not be up to SAGE or JAE in terms of precision but it is affordable. Much as I would love one of those...but a $500 ChiCom rifle in a $1200-ish stock just doesn't make the most sense to me. I'll be more than happy with $300 stock on a $500 rifle. My names on the wait list.
 
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TACTICAL111 said:
Why?

His JAE has an aircraft aluminum/titanium skeleton (which makes it permanently bedded) plus the action can be removed from the stock whenever he wants as often as he wants.
And with options like the barrel tensioner etc....there is no comparison between the two.
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He didn't buy the JAE for a 'precision' stock. He bought it to improve the ergonomics of the rifle. For that purpose IMO the JAE is overkill.

Incidentally I bought the Promag stock for the same reasons. I got tired of using a rolled towel for a cheek rest.......

Hope this clears things up a bit.......

Cheers!
 
Glockster said:
True it may not be up to SAGE or JAE in terms of precision but it is affordable. Much as I would love one of those...but a $500 ChiCom rifle in a $1200-ish stock just doesn't make the most sense to me. I'll be more than happy with $300 stock on a $500 rifle. My names on the wait list.
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I completely agree!

If I had it in me to spend that kind of $$$ on a Sage or JAE, I would have started with a Springfield instead of a Nork.....
 
Can-down said:
Have you had a chance to compare the 2 stocks in person?
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I don't own a JAE :D

I've got nothing in it.

Half my life has been spent in the QA/QC Nuclear business...and I've seen many products and many manufacturers.

For example, there may be 10 different bolts from 10 different manufacturers from all over the world, and from outside appearances they appear IDENTICAL.

BUT....they are not.

Cost aside, they all utterly different, with different manufacturing processes, different tolerances, different heat treatments & different manufacturing QA/QC programs/applications.

The difference between an ISO and an ASME/Z299 program that is actually implemented are VAST!

I'm just going from what I've seen, and the differences appear VAST.

They are two totally different beasts, for two completely different applications.

I'm not trying to s*it on you, just trying to point out some tidbits for potential buyers.

He didn't buy the JAE for a 'precision' stock. He bought it to improve the ergonomics of the rifle. For that purpose IMO the JAE is overkill.

Incidentally I bought the Promag stock for the same reasons. I got tired of using a rolled towel for a cheek rest.......

Hope this clears things up a bit.......
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Let's not get defensive as I'm not trying to bust your balls.
Like I said I have nothing in this.

If it's for ergonomics that's great :D

Whatever works is what I say ;)

I just felt it necessary to point out that a direct comparison between the two is difficult at best.

On that note, I'll gracefully bow out as I've said what I thought needed to be said.

But in conclusion, whatever gets guys shooting they're M14's is ALL good :D:D
 
TACTICAL111 said:
I don't own a JAE :D

I've got nothing in it.

Half my life has been spent in the QA/QC Nuclear business...and I've seen many products and many manufacturers.

For example, there may be 10 different bolts from 10 different manufacturers from all over the world, and from outside appearances they appear IDENTICAL.

BUT....they are not.

Cost aside, they all utterly different, with different manufacturing processes, different tolerances, different heat treatments & different manufacturing QA/QC programs/applications.

The difference between an ISO and an ASME/Z299 program that is actually implemented are VAST!

I'm just going from what I've seen, and the differences appear VAST.

They are two totally different beasts, for two completely different applications.

I'm not trying to s*it on you, just trying to point out some tidbits for potential buyers.



Let's not get defensive as I'm not trying to bust your balls.
Like I said I have nothing in this.

If it's for ergonomics that's great :D

Whatever works is what I say ;)

I just felt it necessary to point out that a direct comparison between the two is difficult at best.

On that note, I'll gracefully bow out as I've said what I thought needed to be said.

But in conclusion, whatever gets guys shooting they're M14's is ALL good :D:D
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Maybe I'm being a bit katty tonight but you say you have not seen or used a JAE and you definitey have not seen or used a promag yet you KNOW that one is superior to the other.

How exactly? Price? Marketing material? YouTube Videos?

I do agree that a direct comparison between the two would be very difficult especially as you have NEITHER to compare against.

Interesting...

I do get to play with a wide range of gear, some very expensive, some very humble. It is surprising how some products of lesser pedigree SMOKE the pricey jam lables.

If it works, pay the price. If we ASSUME something works BECAUSE of price, then the marketers have done a wonderful job.

Jerry
 
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