There are way more then 6 G36s in Canada and the last few that sold went for less then 10K. I do see other G36s in civilian hands overseas in Europe despite the ban from HK so they are 'slipping out' to the commercial market all over the world. Also there has been a number of them imported into Canada more recently then the initial import for the 'movie armorer' that happened many years. They are no prohibited and completely importable so while there might be a small number of them in Canada currently, more will come in, albeit at a slow pace.
Yes it is.I've been in the grey room and it's pretty dam close......Rich
40+? wow. I thought it was definetly below 10. Not so rare after all.
IMO that's pretty rare when you consider there are millions of firearms owners in Canada.
I heard all this mickey mouse bulls**t about price when I bought my UMP .45. For $7000. Not the most expensive gun I've owned, but it was a healthy deterrent against "shiny-kit-syndrome" impulse purchasing.
It is and it isn't. In terms of people, yes, it is somewhat rare -- though <10 is truly considered 'rare' by most (myself included). However, the prices (supposedly) still going for this platform are not equalling the 'rarity' aspect, since alot of people are misinformed -- largely by the G36 owners themselves. If there were ~4-6 total (as quoted before), then the cost would be from $10k-$20+k -- market dependant. Right now, with 60 - 80 out there (which sounds right.. or even more).. this gun should be sitting between $3k-$6k. Hence in my original post: I'll buy the G36p for $20k if $16k worth of gold was thrown in.
I'd love a G36. But my SL8 looks better and functions the same!
If I had the 9k at the time I would have bought the one a wolverine.
Who are you to dictate what people on the market will pay for a rare item?
The fact is that there is a limited supply with no real prospects of more becoming available in the foreseeable future. If everyone was only willing to pay 4k for one, then they would be going for 4k, but as the situation stands, nobody is willing to sell theirs for 4k, and people are willing to pay up to 10k. As for the 20k comment, it is obvious that Rich doesn't really want to sell his rifle.
Who are you to dictate what people on the market will pay for a rare item?
The fact is that there is a limited supply with no real prospects of more becoming available in the foreseeable future. If everyone was only willing to pay 4k for one, then they would be going for 4k, but as the situation stands, nobody is willing to sell theirs for 4k, and people are willing to pay up to 10k. As for the 20k comment, it is obvious that Rich doesn't really want to sell his rifle.
Actually, in regard to function, the SL8 has a better trigger then the G36.
As I said before they are still being imported one or few at a time and unless prohibited will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Slowly but surely.
No -- this is because people still believe that there are only a handful in the country. Most people are mislead into believing this idea -- usually (as many MANY posts on this subject have come up) that there are less than 10. When people start realizing that they aren't very 'rare' (sorry, over 50 is NOT rare in my books, or pretty much any other collectors), and that they can still be imported (which people dont realize).. the value that is being asked doesn't mix with 'rarity' due to misinformation. You're saying people aren't paying $4k for them at present. Ask those people that payed $7k+ how many of these rifles they 'believed' were in the country (probably <10), and if the guns could still be brought in (answer probably was no). Right now, the whole price-point is based upon rarity.. not the gun itself since there is absolutely nothing special about the G36 compared to available guns on the market. So, put the true figures out there and see how the selling price will become affected.
Of course I know that the price point is based on rarity, I even said that the price was so high because that is what they will go for on the market. I seriously wonder if you actually read my post. If H&K were openly selling the G36P to civilians, it would likely be retailing for around $3000. As for the fact that there are 80 in the country... if 70 of those people are not willing to sell their G36 at any price, it is essentially the same as if there was only 10 in the country. This is the current situation as illustrated by Rich not willing to let his go for less than 20k.
And why are you saying they're "no real prospects of more becoming available".... I can bring one in if I want. My best friend brought his in last year.. I can do the same through where he got his -- but why? As soon as people become more aware of the #'s of G36's, and the increased #'s coming in... the realized prices will drop. This goes for anything collectable!
Then bring as many in as you can! I'll give you 5k each!
I'm putting a value out there based upon realistic #'s of G36's in the country.. and to put it bluntly, this is a figure that there are ONLY 60-80 in the country. If there are over 100, I wouldn't give $3k for it. If someone wants to pay more for one -- great for the seller!
and people will pay more for it.
So Who am I to dictate? I'm a guy that doesn't overpay for what's available, and I'm an informed person who isn't an idiot that falls for internet BS from unreliable sources. Spend a few days and get some information instead of listening to the G36's 'fanboys' or owners who were either duped to begin with, or are still looking to make a buck off of (usually) the ignorance of others -- which I don't oppose. Then again, there are the 'rich' out there that could pay $10k+ on a gun without batting an eye.. so all the more power to the seller!
I always thought that the G-36 and variants were ilegal and that the RCMP just hasn't updated their ban list in a while haha. I thought the same for 50 calilber rifles.
Like anything else, an object is often worth what the buyer wants to pay for it. If they are dead set on owning it, they will pay the extra money. There's always a buyer for everything.
I'm always running into some guy who knows just how to get them cheap. On the Internet mostly.
Never do seem to see them with one tho...
The fact is that there is a limited supply with no real prospects of more becoming available in the foreseeable future...
I'll give you the answer... they occasionally appear in civilian hands. This is erratic and you cannot say when a new one will show up.
(Oh, and FYI, I work in firearms retail, so I usually have a pretty good idea of what distributors are bringing in to the country and when.)