H&k g36

There are way more then 6 G36s in Canada and the last few that sold went for less then 10K. I do see other G36s in civilian hands overseas in Europe despite the ban from HK so they are 'slipping out' to the commercial market all over the world. Also there has been a number of them imported into Canada more recently then the initial import for the 'movie armorer' that happened many years. They are no prohibited and completely importable so while there might be a small number of them in Canada currently, more will come in, albeit at a slow pace.

Over the years I counted about 40 - so the true number is probably in the range of 60 to 80.
 
I'd love a G36. But my SL8 looks better and functions the same! :evil:

If I had the 9k at the time I would have bought the one a wolverine.
 
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IMO that's pretty rare when you consider there are millions of firearms owners in Canada.

It is and it isn't. In terms of people, yes, it is somewhat rare -- though <10 is truly considered 'rare' by most (myself included). However, the prices (supposedly) still going for this platform are not equalling the 'rarity' aspect, since alot of people are misinformed -- largely by the G36 owners themselves. If there were ~4-6 total (as quoted before), then the cost would be from $10k-$20+k -- market dependant. Right now, with 60 - 80 out there (which sounds right.. or even more).. this gun should be sitting between $3k-$6k. Hence in my original post: I'll buy the G36p for $20k if $16k worth of gold was thrown in.

Just going into one of my black rifles, I would wager a guess that the FS2000 up here is substantially more rare than the G36 -- and it might be harder to obtain in the long-run. Plus, the FS2000 has a larger butt, and can store more gold in the rear ;) So, if anyone just wants to trade a low-mileaged 2010 Corvette for it right now, instead of in 5-10 years, I'm interested :D The same could probably hold true for the SCAR, since there are 29(?) in limbo at the moment... but if that platform eventually opens up, I can see a floodgate for them up here (especially N/R).
 
It is and it isn't. In terms of people, yes, it is somewhat rare -- though <10 is truly considered 'rare' by most (myself included). However, the prices (supposedly) still going for this platform are not equalling the 'rarity' aspect, since alot of people are misinformed -- largely by the G36 owners themselves. If there were ~4-6 total (as quoted before), then the cost would be from $10k-$20+k -- market dependant. Right now, with 60 - 80 out there (which sounds right.. or even more).. this gun should be sitting between $3k-$6k. Hence in my original post: I'll buy the G36p for $20k if $16k worth of gold was thrown in.

Who are you to dictate what people on the market will pay for a rare item?

The fact is that there is a limited supply with no real prospects of more becoming available in the foreseeable future. If everyone was only willing to pay 4k for one, then they would be going for 4k, but as the situation stands, nobody is willing to sell theirs for 4k, and people are willing to pay up to 10k. As for the 20k comment, it is obvious that Rich doesn't really want to sell his rifle.
 
I'd love a G36. But my SL8 looks better and functions the same! :evil:

If I had the 9k at the time I would have bought the one a wolverine.


Actually, in regard to function, the SL8 has a better trigger then the G36.


Who are you to dictate what people on the market will pay for a rare item?

The fact is that there is a limited supply with no real prospects of more becoming available in the foreseeable future. If everyone was only willing to pay 4k for one, then they would be going for 4k, but as the situation stands, nobody is willing to sell theirs for 4k, and people are willing to pay up to 10k. As for the 20k comment, it is obvious that Rich doesn't really want to sell his rifle.


As I said before they are still being imported one or few at a time and unless prohibited will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Slowly but surely.
 
Who are you to dictate what people on the market will pay for a rare item?

The fact is that there is a limited supply with no real prospects of more becoming available in the foreseeable future. If everyone was only willing to pay 4k for one, then they would be going for 4k, but as the situation stands, nobody is willing to sell theirs for 4k, and people are willing to pay up to 10k. As for the 20k comment, it is obvious that Rich doesn't really want to sell his rifle.

No -- this is because people still believe that there are only a handful in the country. Most people are mislead into believing this idea -- usually (as many MANY posts on this subject have come up) that there are less than 10. When people start realizing that they aren't very 'rare' (sorry, over 50 is NOT rare in my books, or pretty much any other collectors), and that they can still be imported (which people dont realize).. the value that is being asked doesn't mix with 'rarity' due to misinformation. You're saying people aren't paying $4k for them at present. Ask those people that payed $7k+ how many of these rifles they 'believed' were in the country (probably <10), and if the guns could still be brought in (answer probably was no). Right now, the whole price-point is based upon rarity.. not the gun itself since there is absolutely nothing special about the G36 compared to available guns on the market. So, put the true figures out there and see how the selling price will become affected.

And why are you saying they're "no real prospects of more becoming available".... I can bring one in if I want. My best friend brought his in last year.. I can do the same through where he got his -- but why? As soon as people become more aware of the #'s of G36's, and the increased #'s coming in... the realized prices will drop. This goes for anything collectable!

I'm putting a value out there based upon realistic #'s of G36's in the country.. and to put it bluntly, this is a figure that there are ONLY 60-80 in the country. If there are over 100, I wouldn't give $3k for it. If someone wants to pay more for one -- great for the seller!

So Who am I to dictate? I'm a guy that doesn't overpay for what's available, and I'm an informed person who isn't an idiot that falls for internet BS from unreliable sources. Spend a few days and get some information instead of listening to the G36's 'fanboys' or owners who were either duped to begin with, or are still looking to make a buck off of (usually) the ignorance of others -- which I don't oppose. Then again, there are the 'rich' out there that could pay $10k+ on a gun without batting an eye.. so all the more power to the seller!
 
I always thought that the G-36 and variants were ilegal and that the RCMP just hasn't updated their ban list in a while haha. I thought the same for 50 calilber rifles.

Like anything else, an object is often worth what the buyer wants to pay for it. If they are dead set on owning it, they will pay the extra money. There's always a buyer for everything.
 
Actually, in regard to function, the SL8 has a better trigger then the G36.

As I said before they are still being imported one or few at a time and unless prohibited will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Slowly but surely.

Are dealers getting reliable shipments, or do they occasionally appear in civilian hands?

I'll give you the answer... they occasionally appear in civilian hands. This is erratic and you cannot say when a new one will show up.

No -- this is because people still believe that there are only a handful in the country. Most people are mislead into believing this idea -- usually (as many MANY posts on this subject have come up) that there are less than 10. When people start realizing that they aren't very 'rare' (sorry, over 50 is NOT rare in my books, or pretty much any other collectors), and that they can still be imported (which people dont realize).. the value that is being asked doesn't mix with 'rarity' due to misinformation. You're saying people aren't paying $4k for them at present. Ask those people that payed $7k+ how many of these rifles they 'believed' were in the country (probably <10), and if the guns could still be brought in (answer probably was no). Right now, the whole price-point is based upon rarity.. not the gun itself since there is absolutely nothing special about the G36 compared to available guns on the market. So, put the true figures out there and see how the selling price will become affected.

Of course I know that the price point is based on rarity, I even said that the price was so high because that is what they will go for on the market. I seriously wonder if you actually read my post. If H&K were openly selling the G36P to civilians, it would likely be retailing for around $3000. As for the fact that there are 80 in the country... if 70 of those people are not willing to sell their G36 at any price, it is essentially the same as if there was only 10 in the country. This is the current situation as illustrated by Rich not willing to let his go for less than 20k.

And why are you saying they're "no real prospects of more becoming available".... I can bring one in if I want. My best friend brought his in last year.. I can do the same through where he got his -- but why? As soon as people become more aware of the #'s of G36's, and the increased #'s coming in... the realized prices will drop. This goes for anything collectable!

Then bring as many in as you can! I'll give you 5k each!

I'm putting a value out there based upon realistic #'s of G36's in the country.. and to put it bluntly, this is a figure that there are ONLY 60-80 in the country. If there are over 100, I wouldn't give $3k for it. If someone wants to pay more for one -- great for the seller!

and people will pay more for it.

So Who am I to dictate? I'm a guy that doesn't overpay for what's available, and I'm an informed person who isn't an idiot that falls for internet BS from unreliable sources. Spend a few days and get some information instead of listening to the G36's 'fanboys' or owners who were either duped to begin with, or are still looking to make a buck off of (usually) the ignorance of others -- which I don't oppose. Then again, there are the 'rich' out there that could pay $10k+ on a gun without batting an eye.. so all the more power to the seller!

Seriously? They're available? Tell me where, because I would love a genuine G36P for the price you are saying is reasonable. As I've mentioned, there may be 60-80 in the country, but people aren't selling them, they're hanging on to them, so they're NOT available. Generally, you'll only see one or two up for sale in a year. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places though. Where are you finding people selling them for less?

(Oh, and FYI, I work in firearms retail, so I usually have a pretty good idea of what distributors are bringing in to the country and when.)
 
I'm always running into some guy who knows just how to get them cheap. On the Internet mostly.

Never do seem to see them with one tho...
 
I always thought that the G-36 and variants were ilegal and that the RCMP just hasn't updated their ban list in a while haha. I thought the same for 50 calilber rifles.

Like anything else, an object is often worth what the buyer wants to pay for it. If they are dead set on owning it, they will pay the extra money. There's always a buyer for everything.

The RCMP doesn't get to update any ban list. They have a list of firearms they want banned, and they can declare certain firearms a "variant" of other firearms that are prohibited. The only way new firearms can be baned is either by an act of parliament or OIC (or in the case of the T97, meeting certain criteria for being a prohibited firearm.)
 
I'm always running into some guy who knows just how to get them cheap. On the Internet mostly.

Never do seem to see them with one tho...

Haha, too true. This thread reminds me about the Colt 6920 thread where someone was complaining about the price of them, and about how he could get them way cheaper than was being offered. I said if he can get them cheaper, I'd definitely buy one. Still waiting for a PM that he's got one though...
 
The fact is that there is a limited supply with no real prospects of more becoming available in the foreseeable future...

I'll give you the answer... they occasionally appear in civilian hands. This is erratic and you cannot say when a new one will show up.

Which one is it? You are contradicting yourself. :)

(Oh, and FYI, I work in firearms retail, so I usually have a pretty good idea of what distributors are bringing in to the country and when.)

They fact is new ones are coming into the country to private people and some (enterprising) dealers, not through the conventional distributor channels (FN) as that is banned by HK so your comment about being in the retail business and knowing what the distributors are importing is irrelevant. Unless you are trying to get some 'street cred' with your comment. :D
 
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