ATV use

Lazy fvckers always toss the beer cans off the atv's in my area. They are loud annoying, scare away the animals, tear up the trails etc. I dont like them at all. but to each their own. It does not mean that because I hate them others cant enjoy them, I just hope they are more responsible.
 
Although I own several ATVs, for hunting I prefer to frequent the areas that have restrictions for parts of the day. I like to be out on foot where there is no ATV hiway. I see a lot more game and sign, and I don't usually unload my machine until I have an animal down.

During the summer and spring, my ATV gets me into little fishing holes that would take a day to walk or hike into, but I'm not really up to a ride for the simply the sake of riding. It takes me and my stuff to places i want to go, the ride alone doesnt really have much appeal to me as it may for someone more youthful
 
Well if folks are being all "purist" in their hunting methods as per on foot only and saying that only lazy people use ATV's, leave the modern bolt action or compound bow at home and go out there with a pointy stick and a loin cloth. :D

Then you can preach.
 
I finally got one last year & it cuts down on my time req'd to get where I need to go...at the expense of scaring away anything worth shooting.
Yeah; it's about as useful as t-t's on a boar hog for my hunting use.
But it ROCKS for recovery:)
 
Is this the green party forum? "Why do people hunt with a gun, are they to lazy to throw a spear?" =P
 
One of the guys in our hunting party is paralized from the waist down. I'm really happy that Alberta regs alow him to hunt and discharge a firearm legally from his quad. If you seen him crossing private land in the am you'd swear he was a normal guy out quading. The difference is I could get off and walk away but he can't. As for quads scaring all the game away I say bs. I check cattle and fix fence on quads and can drive right up to deer and moose and seldom do they even notice me. I used to hunt horse back and will tell you a 1/2 doz saddle horses and pack horses shod will cause more damage on a hillside than a quad ridden resposibly------Cowboy
 
I guess from the reponses, I should have qualified my origional statement. I have no objection for a person using an ATV to get to a hunting area, nor for recovering game. However, unless handicapped in some way, I do not approve of hunting "from" an ATV.
The problem is...all the yahoos that use them strictly to tear up and down the trails, spooking the game and causing a lot of unnecessary damage to the trails. To suggest that the objectors go back to to pointy sticks and loincloths is simply asinine. Eagleye.
 
Yes, I think it is important to make a clear distinction about who we are talking about. ATVs are incredibly useful for game retrieval and there are also the people limited by age or physical issues for whom these machines help them to continue to do something they enjoy.

We are not talking about those users though. No one minds an old timer tooling along a logging road on his quad looking for game or someone using one to haul out an animal, at least I don't. I have issues with the other types of people I have seen using them and we all know the habits and behaviours of that particular segment of ATV users.

Eagleye said:
I guess from the reponses, I should have qualified my origional statement. I have no objection for a person using an ATV to get to a hunting area, nor for recovering game. However, unless handicapped in some way, I do not approve of hunting "from" an ATV.
The problem is...all the yahoos that use them strictly to tear up and down the trails, spooking the game and causing a lot of unnecessary damage to the trails. To suggest that the objectors go back to to pointy sticks and loincloths is simply asinine. Eagleye.
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Yesterday I drove to Leth. and back. The traffic on the way home was like the deerfoot at rush hour, and it seemed every big motorhome and trailer had a trailer or pup behind them stuffed with atv's and utv's.

All heading west, which means they were heading to the area I alluded to in my earlier post.
I seriously doubt more than a couple of these were hunters, just by the rigs they were driving. I seriously doubt the one's I saw will ever leave pavement.

Rippers, every one of them, on their way to tear the hell out of the forrestry area in SW Ab.
And seriously, westbound was bumper to bumper all the way home on hwy 3. I can only imagine the traffic coming from Calgary. Can likely multiply what I saw by at least 10. I doubt you could find a piece of dirt to stand on out there this weekend where you wouldn't be in danger of being run over.
Too damn many people.
 
klaus enuff said:
Yes, I think it is important to make a clear distinction about who we are talking about. ATVs are incredibly useful for game retrieval and there are also the people limited by age or physical issues for whom these machines help them to continue to do something they enjoy.

We are not talking about those users though. No one minds an old timer tooling along a logging road on his quad looking for game or someone using one to haul out an animal, at least I don't. I have issues with the other types of people I have seen using them and we all know the habits and behaviours of that particular segment of ATV users.
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Well said. This is exactly what i was thinking about..
 
I'm 71 years old and so far haven't needed one, but I have a lot of able bodied hunting buddies between 45& 55 years old.- Every one of them has one, and seems to have to upgrade bigger and bigger every couple of years. Not sure there hunting or just rasing hell!
 
I am sorry but I found this funny as all heck.

I'm 37 and hunt with some fellows that are 60-70 used to be I was 20 and they were 43-55, for some reason it always seemed like I was the best tool have around no matter what the age,:p.

The younger folks still gotta do the bull work.;)

b6ddie said:
I'm 71 years old and so far haven't needed one, but I have a lot of able bodied hunting buddies between 45& 55 years old.- Every one of them has one, and seems to have to upgrade bigger and bigger every couple of years. Not sure there hunting or just rasing hell!
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Kelly Timoffee said:
I am sorry but I found this funny as all heck.

I'm 37 and hunt with some fellows that are 60-70 used to be I was 20 and they were 43-55, for some reason it always seemed like I was the best tool have around no matter what the age,:p.

The younger folks still gotta do the bull work.;)
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That's called 'prenticing. :eek:
And when you git on in age, best you have a bunch of 'prentices to
help you out. Keep the spirit alive so to speak.
The younger ones standing around with their hands in their pockets need
to 'prentice a bit more. :p
Funny how I'm about half way through summer or into early fall as the native
elders would see it, I'm stil doing elder and younger duties. d:h:
Need to find me some 'prentices who don't mind the outdoors.
Lord gifted me with gals so hopefully these 'prentices are soon to be around.
 
But I got smart.

Got me an ATV, now I am REAL handy to have around!! :D


kamlooky said:
That's called 'prenticing. :eek:
And when you git on in age, best you have a bunch of 'prentices to
help you out. Keep the spirit alive so to speak.
The younger ones standing around with their hands in their pockets need
to 'prentice a bit more. :p
Funny how I'm about half way through summer or into early fall as the native
elders would see it, I'm stil doing elder and younger duties. d:h:
Need to find me some 'prentices who don't mind the outdoors.
Lord gifted me with gals so hopefully these 'prentices are soon to be around.
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Suka said:
Yesterday I drove to Leth. and back. The traffic on the way home was like the deerfoot at rush hour, and it seemed every big motorhome and trailer had a trailer or pup behind them stuffed with atv's and utv's.

All heading west, which means they were heading to the area I alluded to in my earlier post.
I seriously doubt more than a couple of these were hunters, just by the rigs they were driving. I seriously doubt the one's I saw will ever leave pavement.

Rippers, every one of them, on their way to tear the hell out of the forrestry area in SW Ab.
And seriously, westbound was bumper to bumper all the way home on hwy 3. I can only imagine the traffic coming from Calgary. Can likely multiply what I saw by at least 10. I doubt you could find a piece of dirt to stand on out there this weekend where you wouldn't be in danger of being run over.
Too damn many people.
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Don't worry, they just kept right on driving and are at Kookanusa.
 
I think it would be fair to ban ATVs for hunting at the same time as horses and using airplanes to get to fly-in remote camps are banned for hunting. Util that happens I'm more than happy to live with the occasional sound of an ATV in the woods.

People need to realise that :
1. the noise from ATVs doesn't scare game away, they are accustomed to it and just move out of the way to let the ATV pass.
2. All those guys hunting from ATVs aren't leaving the established trails and that means less competition for those of us willing to walk in areas where ATVs can't travel
3. if the ATVs really bother you, get off the road and get into the bush, you lazy s**te. :)
 
jay007 said:
I am n ATV owner and it is registered and insured, along with 2 registered and insured snowmobiles.

I have been checked for valid registration and insurance both quadding (in AB)and sledding (in BC). My opinion on it is that yes it may be inconvenient and have a price but if when some jack@sses want to be distructive or break the rules being able to grab a plate number to at least prove my innocence it is worth it. I am both a speed enthusiast and a nature/wildlife lover, which most ATV riders are. It is a small group that are the distructive and nuisance riders that cause the problems and to be lumped together with these people is unfair to the majority.

I do see the point here and both agree and disagree. This is just my 2 cents, take it or leave it.
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I am one of the old farts who putt around on his quad and will likely never hit anything. But it seems there are so many auto-ATV accidents in rural areas that it is a neccesity.

I have had a couple of really close calls with kids and grown up kids on quads. This may not be a problem everywhere, but it sure is where I live. If not for insurance how could you ever collect the damages from an accident?
 
I'm wary about weighing in on this, as I got roasted for it before. Both here and on the AO forum.
Having moved from the UK where I shot deer year round on private leases and commercial forestry, I'm absolutely stunned by the slob hunters in Alberta. I have met a handful of people that I would call hunters, most of those bowhunt. It seems to be "socially acceptable" to shoot a game animal from a vehicle(I don't care what the vehicle is). I have walked for miles into "foot access only" trails and leases, only to have a truck or ATV drive past me as daylight breaks. I'm amazed that quads are allowed into the mountains at all. (I have given up on wmu 400 and 402)
And yes, I have hunted moose where they can only be recoverd by a quad, but I don't hunt from one.
I can see paid hunting coming as it gets harder to get away from weekend warriors in the bush.
 
^ If you live in Alberta long enough you get used to #######s driving by you to go into a hunting spot. I've had it happen routinely, but it hasn't affected my ability to get game. You just gotta persevere and find more remote, over-looked country.

One time my moose hunting buddy and I were scouting a trail, there were numerous fresh moose tracks, as well as a stink pot right on the trail. I actually had located it simply from the odor, as it was dug out of hard clay, it had not made a very large hole... but you could sure smell it, and the tracks were indistinct, I guess to the un-trained eye.
Anyway, we were stopped looking at this sign and talking about it, when a group of guys on ATVs came rolling up. Said they were looking all over for moose but couldn't locate any moose or moose sign. And we were literally sitting on this sign; tracks, stink pot (scrape, rut pit, whatever you call it), and these guys didn't smell it, see it etc...

Not all 'hunters' get it.
 
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