M&P and Glock comparison with pics

kman300 said:
Just a quick read here should explain it to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigger_(firearms)
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Wow, wikipedia, the site anyone can edit.:rolleyes: The striker on a Glock is not "cocked" as indicated on the website. The striker is "charged" approximately 2mm from its forward(fired) position which is approximately 1/6th the total travel distance of the trigger. That hardly constitutes "cocked" in the single action sense. The fact that there's no hammer to follow the slide during loading is irrelevant. DA, DA/SA and DAO actions are categorized and known for the actions required/performed by the trigger to discharge the firearm, not the sequence of mechanical events during operation.

TDC
 
IM_Lugger said:
Grip is where the main differences are IMO. (M&P has a small backstrap and Glock doesn't have the backstrap add ons - feel the most comfortable that way for me). Gocks grip is a lot more grippy which I like but I suspect after a long day of shooting M&P would feel more comfortable for that reason. Also, the angle of the grip on a Glock forces your hand to sit very high on the gun which makes M&P feel like it has a higher bore axis where in reality they are about the same. When I hold the M&P the web of my hand isn't even close to touching the beavertail, which is another reason why I'm not a fan of it. M&P has an edge in grip size tho, it feels smaller than Glock.
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Um the new Gen4 Glocks come with 3 sizes of backstrap add-ons standard.... did you not get yours? or are you talking about the default "SF" sized grip being bigger than the small M&P one?
 
TDC said:
Wow, wikipedia, the site anyone can edit.:rolleyes: The striker on a Glock is not "cocked" as indicated on the website. The striker is "charged" approximately 2mm from its forward(fired) position which is approximately 1/6th the total travel distance of the trigger. That hardly constitutes "cocked" in the single action sense. The fact that there's no hammer to follow the slide during loading is irrelevant. DA, DA/SA and DAO actions are categorized and known for the actions required/performed by the trigger to discharge the firearm, not the sequence of mechanical events during operation.

TDC
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If it's that easy to edit you should go on and change it. :) Have a look how "easy" that is. I knew I shouldn't have linked wikipedia because someone was bound to mention what you did.

I'm not sure why this is confusing to people. The glock trigger does absolutely nothing until I rack the slide. That alone means it isn't DAO. I have no second strike ability either. If the slide isn't racked it doesn't do anything. No matter how hard you squeeze the trigger.
 
Jeezzzz this kind of topic been open many cans of worms, sometimes Glock cool-aid kill people's mind, M&P is their own design, nothing really is a copy of any other gun. I LIKE My Glocks but they are over rated, but for a six hundred dallors gun will go bang all the time and easy to take care, it is quite a good choice for new shooter who seeking for a good shooting iron. They are no magic.

Trigun
 
Why the arguments? Just get both - problem solved. :) You can't go wrong with either one as they're both top-end (in terms of performance, value, and reliability) polymer guns and very easy to operate/maintain.

I have to say though, the M&P does feel better in my hands, and looks better in terms of overall shape and design. But if I were forced to pick only ONE polymer gun in SHTF situations, I would not hesitate to pick up a Glock over anything else.
 
I enjoy both pistols. Like both. However I would choose a Glock over the M&P just for the fact I have never had a Glock lose parts while operating it. Mainly talking about either the left or right side slide release. Its a minor thing and does not affect the operation of the pistol, however it's like going out with a hot chick that randomly loses an ear in the middle of ###. I'm just not all that comfortable with parts randomly falling off.
 
VancityRider said:
I enjoy both pistols. Like both. However I would choose a Glock over the M&P just for the fact I have never had a Glock lose parts while operating it. Mainly talking about either the left or right side slide release. Its a minor thing and does not affect the operation of the pistol, however it's like going out with a hot chick that randomly loses an ear in the middle of ###. I'm just not all that comfortable with parts randomly falling off.
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You had a slide stop/release fall out of an M&P while you were shooting it?
I've never heard of that happening..
 
I'm not sure why this is confusing to people. The glock trigger does absolutely nothing until I rack the slide. That alone means it isn't DAO. I have no second strike ability either. If the slide isn't racked it doesn't do anything. No matter how hard you squeeze the trigger.
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The Glock pistol incorporates the "Safe-Action" system which features 3 safeties and is similar to a constant double action only system.The action is never set (or fully cocked) except when the trigger is pulled completely to the rear.
 
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kman300 said:
If it's that easy to edit you should go on and change it. :) Have a look how "easy" that is. I knew I shouldn't have linked wikipedia because someone was bound to mention what you did.

I'm not sure why this is confusing to people. The glock trigger does absolutely nothing until I rack the slide. That alone means it isn't DAO. I have no second strike ability either. If the slide isn't racked it doesn't do anything. No matter how hard you squeeze the trigger.
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The action style is determined by the actions the trigger performs when firing. WHO CARES WHAT DOES OR DOES NOT HAPPEN DURING CYCLING! If the trigger charges and releases the firing system, it is a double action. Perhaps not in the "traditional" sense like pistols with hammers, but they're still double action. Charge and release, Two actions, hence DOUBLE ACTION.

Second strike is not a requirement for nor is it defined as being a requirement for DA, or DA/SA guns. Second strike is a bullsh*t marketing gimmick designed to increase sales to the less informed.

Your answer to the "confusion" is below(and above) in mildot's post.

TDC

mildot said:
The Glock pistol incorporates the "Safe-Action" system which features 3 safeties and is similar to a constant double action only system.The action is never set (or fully cocked) except when the trigger is pulled completely to the rear.
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VancityRider said:
I enjoy both pistols. Like both. However I would choose a Glock over the M&P just for the fact I have never had a Glock lose parts while operating it. Mainly talking about either the left or right side slide release. Its a minor thing and does not affect the operation of the pistol, however it's like going out with a hot chick that randomly loses an ear in the middle of ###. I'm just not all that comfortable with parts randomly falling off.
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You can't be serious? You actually had a slide release fall off???? Details please.

TDC
 
 
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