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Rocket Surgery said:
It's a 16 inch barrel, how could it not be legal. The OAL can't be less than 28 inches. Take a piece of dental floss, measure the barrel on your computer monitor, that'll give you a relative distance for 16 inches and then use that same piece of string to see if the receiver and buttstock are bigger/smaller.

The barrel on that gun is definitely smaller than the rest of it, making that gun more than 32inches OAL. It can't be restricted.
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Not sure which Winchester you are referring to so...

Model 92 Trapper is restricted as it has a 16" barrel. Its chambered in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt and according to the site, is a takedown as well. While it might not be illegal it, you can't hunt with it. Would make a nice backpack gun.

Model 94 Short has a 20" barrel so its not restricted and is 38" overall.

This is from the Winchester site - no need to get out your dental floss to measure your monitor. :eek: (unless you want to floss your teeth but who knows what some people do with dental floss :p)
 
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I'm wondering if actual trappers in Canada are permitted to take a restrict rifle into the bush. Anyone know? I seem to recall hearing that geologists are allowed to bring handguns for bear defense.
 
fugawi said:
Not sure which Winchester you are referring to so...

Model 92 Trapper is restricted as it has a 16" barrel. Its chambered in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt and according to the site, is a takedown as well. While it might not be illegal it, you can't hunt with it. Would make a nice backpack gun.

Model 94 Short has a 20" barrel so its not restricted and is 38" overall.

This is from the Winchester site - no need to get out your dental floss to measure your monitor. :eek: (unless you want to floss your teeth but who knows what some people do with dental floss :p)
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Where did you get the information that a 16" barrel was illegal?

Ted
 
Why not? said:
Where did you get the information that a 16" barrel was illegal?

Ted
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Ted, read more carefully - "I said while it might not be illegal it, you can't hunt with it."

fugawi said:
Model 92 Trapper is restricted as it has a 16" barrel. Its chambered in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt and according to the site, is a takedown as well. While it might not be illegal it, you can't hunt with it. Would make a nice backpack gun.
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I don't really see a purpose for a restricted hunting gun - do you?
 
fugawi said:
Not sure which Winchester you are referring to so...

Model 92 Trapper is restricted as it has a 16" barrel. Its chambered in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt and according to the site, is a takedown as well. While it might not be illegal it, you can't hunt with it. Would make a nice backpack gun.

Model 94 Short has a 20" barrel so its not restricted and is 38" overall.

This is from the Winchester site - no need to get out your dental floss to measure your monitor. :eek: (unless you want to floss your teeth but who knows what some people do with dental floss :p)
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I never did pay much attention to the restricted long guns, but I think that You are wrong on this account.
Take-down or not, the lever action with 16" barrel is non-restricted.
How about the new Mare's leg from Henry?
It has what?
12" barrel and is non-restricted.
 
fugawi said:
Ted, read more carefully - "I said while it might not be illegal it, you can't hunt with it."



I don't really see a purpose for a restricted hunting gun - do you?
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I think what he meant was that just because it has a 16in barrel does not make it restricted (not illegal). Also as for your comment about restricted hunting guns I would have to disagree, I dont think any gun is more suited for fast pace coyote hunting than the AR-15 and Americans have proved this time and time again. Also if you know you are going to be shooting your animal at short distances would it not be easier to pack a large caliber revolver over a rifle?
 
This is from the RCMP web site:

Definition of a Restricted Firearm

According to the Criminal Code, a restricted firearm is:

a handgun that is not a prohibited firearm;
a semi-automatic, centre-fire rifle or shotgun with a barrel length less than 470 mm (18.5 inches) that is not prohibited;
a rifle or shotgun that can fire when its overall length is reduced by folding, telescoping or some other means to less than 660 mm (26 inches);
any firearm prescribed as restricted (including some long guns).

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/rp-eng.htm

Does it mean that only semi auto less than 18.5 inches are restricted or does it mean any rifles shorter than 18.5 inches are restricted. I'm not sure. If 'm wrong great, I'll be first in line to buy a '92 Trapper Takedown (after I buy my BLR)
 
fugawi said:
This is from the RCMP web site:

Definition of a Restricted Firearm

According to the Criminal Code, a restricted firearm is:

a handgun that is not a prohibited firearm;
a semi-automatic, centre-fire rifle or shotgun with a barrel length less than 470 mm (18.5 inches) that is not prohibited;
a rifle or shotgun that can fire when its overall length is reduced by folding, telescoping or some other means to less than 660 mm (26 inches);
any firearm prescribed as restricted (including some long guns).

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/rp-eng.htm

Does it mean that only semi auto less than 18.5 inches are restricted or does it mean any rifles shorter than 18.5 inches are restricted. I'm not sure. If 'm wrong great, I'll be first in line to buy a '92 Trapper Takedown (after I buy my BLR)
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Obviously rifle must be either semi-automatic and has the barrel shorter than 18,5" to be classified as the restricted one (except for some military style rifles like AR of course). Otherwise Henry Bare's Leg would be restricted or even prohibited. I think that I also saw a Norinco made bolt action 22 with 13" barrel or so...oh well, but as I said, I'm not an expert on this BS.
 
slick39 said:
I think what he meant was that just because it has a 16in barrel does not make it restricted (not illegal). Also as for your comment about restricted hunting guns I would have to disagree, I dont think any gun is more suited for fast pace coyote hunting than the AR-15 and Americans have proved this time and time again. Also if you know you are going to be shooting your animal at short distances would it not be easier to pack a large caliber revolver over a rifle?
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I'll admit, I could be wrong on this. The AR-15, up here they are restricted period so you can't hunt with them. In the USA its different so hunters are using ARs to hunt varmints in .223 and deer in larger calibers.

I can't hunt with my CZ 858-4V because its a folder with a shorter than 18.5" barrel. But I could with a CZ 858 as it has a longer barrel.

Both my Savage and Winchester carbines are 20" barrels. My bolt actions are 22-24" . So maybe 16" isn't restricted. I don't know of anyone hunting with one though and the calibers for the '92 Takedown are .357, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt so those are at best short range deer rounds.

I would love to try hunting with a handgun but that's a non starter in Canada. I have heard of Americans packing S&W 500s and 454 Casulls when they go fishing in Alaska for bear defense.
 
fugawi said:
a rifle or shotgun that can fire when its overall length is reduced by folding, telescoping or some other means to less than 660 mm (26 inches)
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Just how do you fire a win 92 takedown when it's "taken" down?
Please keep your erroneous interpretations to yourself. :bsFlag:
 
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And since we are posting pictures of lever rifles, here' my 1904 Winchester 1895 in .303 British. It has a Williams peep sight with a Merit Adjustable Aperture insert. Barrel's not original though - its a replacement Lee Enfield target barrel.

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Took this one hunting last year.
 
fugawi said:
Ted, read more carefully - "I said while it might not be illegal it, you can't hunt with it." I don't really see a purpose for a restricted hunting gun - do you?
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I was referring to your incorrect statement that a 16" barrel is restricted (bold emphasis mine). I should have asked where you got the information that a lever action with a 16" barrel was restricted.

fugawi said:
Not sure which Winchester you are referring to so...

Model 92 Trapper is restricted as it has a 16" barrel. Its chambered in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt and according to the site, is a takedown as well. While it might not be illegal it, you can't hunt with it. Would make a nice backpack gun.

Model 94 Short has a 20" barrel so its not restricted and is 38" overall.

This is from the Winchester site - no need to get out your dental floss to measure your monitor. :eek: (unless you want to floss your teeth but who knows what some people do with dental floss :p)
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Why can't you hunt with a 16" barrel rifle?

Ted
 
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Ted if you read all most posts and not selectively picked out what you want, you would read that I admitted that I might have it wrong. And thanks to you and a few the others you proved me wrong. Do you feel like a big man now?

I've also posted a thread to find out who has experience using one of these and so far not one reply so whether its legal, restricted, non restricted or whatever -IS anyone using it or is it just marketing?

Please reply to the new thread as I'm done with this one. Have fun boys.
 
Pardon me, but you responded directly to my post, quoting it, and I responded directly to that response, doing the same. That is hardly what one would call, "selectively picked out what you want."

As far as you saying you have admitted that you might be wrong, the fact is you are wrong. Simple as that. The rifle is not restricted, and it is legal to hunt with it.

You are the one attempting to be a wordsmith here. :)

Ted
 
fugawi said:
And since we are posting pictures of lever rifles, here' my 1904 Winchester 1895 in .303 British. It has a Williams peep sight with a Merit Adjustable Aperture insert. Barrel's not original though - its a replacement Lee Enfield target barrel.

1904WinchesterM1895receiverrightsidemine-1.jpg


Took this one hunting last year.
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That's a gorgeous rifle! :)
 
A rifle manufactured with a 16" barrel is not restricted and may be used for hunting. I own several of them. I have two Marlin model 1895 SDT rifles in 45/70 with 16" barrels and a Ruger compact .243 with the 16" barrel I believe and one of the Savage .22 trappers with the 13" barrel. As long as the overall length meets the requirements your good to go. But from what I was told you're not allowed to take a rifle and cut it down yourself it has to come from the manufacture that way. Short rifles are great. Jim
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