Theoretical AR Magazine Loophole?

mossberg now has a bolt action rifle that uses ar mage

Chambered in 5.56mm NATO (.223 Rem) Accepts AR-15 style aftermarket magazinesFactory-installed, Weaver-style basesCombo package includes a pre-mounted and bore-sighted 4-16x50mm variable riflescope, bi-pod and 10-round magazine24” fluted, button rifled, medium-bull barrel with a 1:9 rate of twist11 degree varmint muzzle crown protects the muzzleBenchrest style stock with ergonomically-designed pistol grip
 
johnsks said:
mossberg now has a bolt action rifle that uses ar mage

Chambered in 5.56mm NATO (.223 Rem) Accepts AR-15 style aftermarket magazinesFactory-installed, Weaver-style basesCombo package includes a pre-mounted and bore-sighted 4-16x50mm variable riflescope, bi-pod and 10-round magazine24” fluted, button rifled, medium-bull barrel with a 1:9 rate of twist11 degree varmint muzzle crown protects the muzzleBenchrest style stock with ergonomically-designed pistol grip
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dosnt matter anyways as this rifle only comes with a 10 round mag.
 
And its designed to use an AR-15 magazine and not some proprietery bolt action mag.


I f-in hate it when people call the LAR ruling a loophole, it makes it sound like we are getting away with something. Its the written law, not some loophole we are taking adantage of. The fact we are limited in capacity is ridiculous enough, we shouldnt be begging and having to sneak around looking for "loopholes" for a measly ten rounds.

You can have all the un-pinned 30 rounders you want, as long as they are not assembled. ;)
 
Clobbersauras said:
This has been tried before and didn't work. You guys are trying to apply logic to a totally illogical system.

There's a firearms tech reading this thread right now and laughing maniacally at the foolishness of us all.
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x2! There is no sense, reason or logic behind the firearms laws. Just BS on top of more BS with the RCMP playing God and trying to make thier own laws on top of it all.

Regards,
 
How about getting Rock River to stamp their 20 round magazines ".458 Socom" instead...

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Petrock said:
You didn't ask about high capacity mags. You asked about a standard capacity mag that just happens to be illegal in Canada right now.
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That was my point. I just want to be able to have an already legal 10 round mag that has the shape of a 30 rounder. Im happy enough with 10 rounds, I just hate the look of them.
 
griffin86 said:
How about getting Rock River to stamp their 20 round magazines ".458 Socom" instead...

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Interesting... I wonder if c-products (if they still exist?) or someone manufactured stamped socom mags what the implecations would be. I can't think offhand of a law that prohibits putting the wrong caliber in a magazine, although I may be overlooking something. I mean, technically those with a 458 upper should legally be allowed a 5 round (458) mag manufactured for their specific gun right?

There's a few threads on cgn about the socom mag. I'll do some more research. It seems the Beowulf may *might* be another possibility just from the quick reading I did
 
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StylinMike said:
That was my point. I just want to be able to have an already legal 10 round mag that has the shape of a 30 rounder. Im happy enough with 10 rounds, I just hate the look of them.
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You haven't gotten the point yet. 30 is the standard capacity. Everything else is just a different mag.

If you want the 30rd length with the 10 rd capacity, make something that attaches to the coupler that resembles the profile of the 30rd mag body and then market it too all the service rifle shooters.
 
StylinMike said:
I can't think offhand of a law that prohibits putting the wrong caliber in a magazine, although I may be overlooking something
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You are correct - any ammo can go into a magazine. That's why you can stuff, say, 13 rounds of 9mm into a .40 mag and go shooting.

Regarding .458 Socom, it would have to be marked on the body rather than the baseplate. Further, at least one importer has tried this only to be denied by the RCMP.
 
griffin86 said:
How about getting Rock River to stamp their 20 round magazines ".458 Socom" instead...
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.223 won't work in a .458 SOCOM mag, the outer dimension between the mag is the same, so it it fits in the mag well. however the .223 casing is half the size of the SOCOM casing, so the gap between the lips is way to wide to hold the .223 in place.
 
Not true.. the mags are the same.. feed lips incl. With 458 Socom, the mag becomes a single stack. Maybe a new follower if wanted but not required.

"The 458 Socom cartridge was designed by Maarten ter Weeme. He wanted an AR15 cartridge that would provide big-bore effectiveness, function in unaltered AR15 magazines, require zero modification to standard-production AR15 lower receivers, and need only minimal modification to AR upper receivers." - #### Metcalf, Technical Editor, Shooting Times January 2008
 
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