There's a lot of people here showing there age. Its the "that's the way its always been done, and that's the ways you should always do it" Some of you old timers should be open to new ideas.
Does anyone know the minimum suggested velocity for this bullet?
It's a free country my hunting brothers.
Can anyone answer 1899's original question without throwing in their opinions about lead bullets?
I just found that they are designed to expand down to 1600 f/s
That is for sure beyond 150 - 200 yards. Excellent choice. Only thing to
check out is the actual accuracy of these in your particular rifle.
It's a free country my hunting brothers.
The velocity would be, according to my ballistics calculator, 1600 fps at 175 yards. A 150 yard zero would give you no more than +/- 2.0" out to 175 yards. Sounds like a nice little combo - I'll give it a try and report back.
I would never admit to that!
And that's why headshots are better, hardly any fragmentation into the meat I am using to make hamburger. LOL!I've looked at these bullets and the distance between the inside and outside of the nose is thin kinda like their "45/70" tsx. It looks like it would open up a low vel. and the big chunk of copper in the shank keeps on pushing. I think the problem with the "45/70" tsx is there isn't a long enough solid shank after the nose opens up, due to powder room etc. Not the case from visaul inspection of the 150 gn FN tsx. Should be an interesting upgrade to the 30-30! 150 grain trajectories with 160-170 grain penetration?
And if the rest of you want to eat lead...go ahead! Its not the lead on your work bench you gotta worry about its the fragments that wind up in your hamburger! BLA BLA BLA! I knew someone that rubbed lead on his balls everyday and drank bacon grease and lived to be 100 too. Its in spite of not because of! JFC!
I have them. Shot them in my Marlin 30/30. Handloaded MV of 2070fps is the best I could get out of the 20" barrel. I found at 100 yds they didn't expand very much. I think if you used them on live game you would want to shoot them right in the shoulders and hit as much bone as you could to help expansion.
And yes they are designed for the 30/30, flat with a rather large hollow point.
I switched back to the 170 gr Nosler Partition, it always expands. My 2 cents. I use my 30/30 for deer but elk are always an option so like the partition
I tried the powders listed in the Barnes manual with the fastest speeds. Did not try and LeveRevolution. The bullet had just started to expand, opened up maybe 2 or 3mm then stopped. It was almost like a solid. Sort of like the pics they have in their adds of the least amount of expansion, maybe a bit less. Did not get anywhere close to the classic Barnes mushroom. I was thinking of experimenting with them in my 30/06 and bringing them up in velocity in 100fps intervals to check expansion at 100 yards. I have 150 of them. Then I will know at what velocity they are good at. I think at 2600-2700fps they would be a devastating whitetail load. I will add when done with experiment in a week or so. I will use wet newsprint for medium.
I have a Chronny so fps are actual
I've got an idea, lets see how expensive we can make a 30/30 reload that is used on deer and fired at just over 2000fps, from a levergun with open sights...let's start with a Barnes TSX bullet, what are they $1.50 each, what about the newest, most expensive powder, leverevolution or some such, maybe some of that finnish Velveeta powder. Cases? Gotta use Lapua or Nosler custom, which costs more? We'll use those, are we up to $5/reload yet?




























