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SKS hunter project
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The length from grip to trigger is actually perfect for me. My hunting buddy describes it as a "feel-good" gun. For the average 6 footer, it has the perfect length of pull and trigger reach. I will probably bed the action on the SKS when I bed the action on my No.4 Lee Enfield sporter.
Nice build Steve. Too bad you never seem to have time to go the range though... 
Nice to learn from this post about the 100 yard limitation of the 7.62X39 round. I was about to design a piston operated assault rifle in that caliber to sell to militaries and warlords around the world. Now I can see that a rifle like that would obvioiusly never, even catch on...
Nice to learn from this post about the 100 yard limitation of the 7.62X39 round. I was about to design a piston operated assault rifle in that caliber to sell to militaries and warlords around the world. Now I can see that a rifle like that would obvioiusly never, even catch on...
Nice build Steve. Too bad you never seem to have time to go the range though...
Nice to learn from this post about the 100 yard limitation of the 7.62X39 round. I was about to design a piston operated assault rifle in that caliber to sell to militaries and warlords around the world. Now I can see that a rifle like that would obvioiusly never, even catch on...
Thats a good one toxic... Ha ha..
Can we see range reports Steve?.. Im always interested in Sks accurracy and what we can do to improve it.
punishing recoil of the SKS??
When I hear stuff like this, its hard to validate an opinion or anything in this post to be worth a read. Further to this, you can Frankenstein a SKS what ever way you want, but the bullet still runs out of energy at just over 100 yards. Why does anyone need a scope for that?
It might be cool if you still live in your Mom's basement, but its an embarrassment to real hunters and shooters.
I dunno, but the 7-year old cow moose my wife shot with 3 shots from an AKM at 220 paces in 1989 sure seemed dead to me when we cooked her up. Likewise a few bears I got with the same rifle. As far as a scope, some of us old farts have trouble focusing on 3 planes at once.
it's kind of sad that you would denigrate someone's obvious pride and joy. To me, and SKS is definitely not the ideal hunting rifle. Too heavy for my likes, given the power of the round. I'd go for a 30-30, 32 Special or 44 mag., but that doesn't take away form the OP's right to be proud of his handiwork. He did nice work, and has just about turned a sow's ear into a silk purse.
Only if it shoots well.. can you turn a sows ear into a silk purse PapaCloude.
LOL. No matter what, that barrel looks good.
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I can't see how it would shoot worse than stock. Unless the scope is buggered, still it looks clean.
Very Cool.
I am curious as to what other possibilities there are with this round after watching an episode of sons of guns where they turned an AK into an actual sniper rifle, still shooting the same round...it just takes an idea that's all.
As to this round being lethal passed 100 yards, the AK to sniper conversion answers that, as they did send the rifle overseas.
I am curious as to what other possibilities there are with this round after watching an episode of sons of guns where they turned an AK into an actual sniper rifle, still shooting the same round...it just takes an idea that's all.
As to this round being lethal passed 100 yards, the AK to sniper conversion answers that, as they did send the rifle overseas.
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SKS hunter range report!
Good Evening Shooters,
I have returned. From the range. With shooting results. CZ surplus ammo 5 round groups shot 1.25" at 50yards and around about 2" at 100 yards with one flier. Images below and a loonie represents 1MOA. Top shot was at 50 yards, second was at 100 yards. The third picture was a 4L water filled jug at 100 yards. I wanted to take a look at energy expended at the 100 yard range by 7.62x39mm rounds and this was the simplest analog I could think of for something like an animal while adhering to our range rules.
Thanks again for all the positive feed back on this project, I really appreciate the positive comments.
Steve
Good Evening Shooters,
I have returned. From the range. With shooting results. CZ surplus ammo 5 round groups shot 1.25" at 50yards and around about 2" at 100 yards with one flier. Images below and a loonie represents 1MOA. Top shot was at 50 yards, second was at 100 yards. The third picture was a 4L water filled jug at 100 yards. I wanted to take a look at energy expended at the 100 yard range by 7.62x39mm rounds and this was the simplest analog I could think of for something like an animal while adhering to our range rules.
Thanks again for all the positive feed back on this project, I really appreciate the positive comments.
Steve
She's ready for deer season! Nice workNice build Steve. Too bad you never seem to have time to go the range though...
Nice to learn from this post about the 100 yard limitation of the 7.62X39 round. I was about to design a piston operated assault rifle in that caliber to sell to militaries and warlords around the world. Now I can see that a rifle like that would obvioiusly never, even catch on...
Awesome post - I think I let out a little pee when I read it.
You should have placed the milk jug at 101yds. Then you would have seen for sure that the round would not even have penetrated one side, let alone transmitted any energy (since it would have none left) into hydrostatic force to explode the jug. I mean seriously, if you are gonna do the experiment, do it all the way. Yes that is an expected result of a 100yd shot. Then the round passes through an energy sucking wormhole that, although does not change windage, seems to somehow suck whatever energy the bullet may still retain and it drops right to the ground. I can't even count the number of bullets I have recovered bullets just one yard behind the 100yd paper target frame. It allows me to re-use the FMJ bullets when I want to duplicate the cartridgesince they only punched paper and then dropped right to the ground, they are completely undamaged.
The amazing thing I have noted is that at 100yds, exactly, the round has enough power to completely punch right through 3/8" mild steel, but at 101yds, it falls out of the air. Why my 12yr old son used to sit back there and swat them out of the air at 100.75yds since he could see them moving then, since they had lost all of their velocity and energy. Of course, those bullets are useless to try and reload, they are deformed, but I clean them up so that the range doesn't pile up behind the 100yd target frame.
Seriously, fiddler, are you on glue??!! runs out of energy after 100yds? tell you what, you come on out and I'll even let you sit in a 45gal drum at the 200yd mark and let me know if the round still penetrates a thin mild steel drum before it penetrates you.
I have used this round and an SKS for several years to harvest deer. My rule of thumb for terminal energy requirements comes from advice that an old-timer gave me when I started reloading 30-odd years ago. 1000ft/lbs for moose, bear and Elk, 800 for whitetail or mule deer.
I have used that as my guideline for quite a few years and have not had to worry about meat on the table. That being said, My SKS throws PRVI hunting soft points in excess of 2400fps. That's 1600ft/lbs of muzzle energy. At 100yds the rounds is still carrying 1250ft/lbs. At 200yds it still has 970 (still pretty close to moose requirements let alone deer). At 250yds it still carries 840ft/lbs and drops to 800 at 260yds.
Now, change that to a 150gn bullet and you have an almost 400yd deer round. Not that the rifle will shoot it accurately that far, but in a decent bolt action...? Even in my Remington 799 (not a decent bolt action) I could not be certain of a proper hit in the 8" circle at that range.
My max ranges are determined by the MPBR of the round. In the case of the PRVI rounds, that is 215yds. In the case of handloaded 150gn rounds, the MPBR is 210yds to hit inside a 5" circle.
Did you just throw logic into this conversation? Good on ya for putting Simonov's little masterpiece to good use. It just goes to show that you dont need a .300 win mag to bag a deer. Or a .338 for moose....or 2800 ft. lbs...
Good on ya for putting Simonov's little masterpiece to good use. It just goes to show that you dont need a .300 win mag to bag a deer. Or a .338 for moose....or 2800 ft. lbs...
You should have placed the milk jug at 101yds. Then you would have seen for sure that the round would not even have penetrated one side, let alone transmitted any energy (since it would have none left) into hydrostatic force to explode the jug. I mean seriously, if you are gonna do the experiment, do it all the way. Yes that is an expected result of a 100yd shot. Then the round passes through an energy sucking wormhole that, although does not change windage, seems to somehow suck whatever energy the bullet may still retain and it drops right to the ground. I can't even count the number of bullets I have recovered bullets just one yard behind the 100yd paper target frame. It allows me to re-use the FMJ bullets when I want to duplicate the cartridgesince they only punched paper and then dropped right to the ground, they are completely undamaged.
The amazing thing I have noted is that at 100yds, exactly, the round has enough power to completely punch right through 3/8" mild steel, but at 101yds, it falls out of the air. Why my 12yr old son used to sit back there and swat them out of the air at 100.75yds since he could see them moving then, since they had lost all of their velocity and energy. Of course, those bullets are useless to try and reload, they are deformed, but I clean them up so that the range doesn't pile up behind the 100yd target frame.
Seriously, fiddler, are you on glue??!! runs out of energy after 100yds? tell you what, you come on out and I'll even let you sit in a 45gal drum at the 200yd mark and let me know if the round still penetrates a thin mild steel drum before it penetrates you.
I have used this round and an SKS for several years to harvest deer. My rule of thumb for terminal energy requirements comes from advice that an old-timer gave me when I started reloading 30-odd years ago. 1000ft/lbs for moose, bear and Elk, 800 for whitetail or mule deer.
I have used that as my guideline for quite a few years and have not had to worry about meat on the table. That being said, My SKS throws PRVI hunting soft points in excess of 2400fps. That's 1600ft/lbs of muzzle energy. At 100yds the rounds is still carrying 1250ft/lbs. At 200yds it still has 970 (still pretty close to moose requirements let alone deer). At 250yds it still carries 840ft/lbs and drops to 800 at 260yds.
Now, change that to a 150gn bullet and you have an almost 400yd deer round. Not that the rifle will shoot it accurately that far, but in a decent bolt action...? Even in my Remington 799 (not a decent bolt action) I could not be certain of a proper hit in the 8" circle at that range.
My max ranges are determined by the MPBR of the round. In the case of the PRVI rounds, that is 215yds. In the case of handloaded 150gn rounds, the MPBR is 210yds to hit inside a 5" circle.
