Notice to S&W M&P 15-22 Rifle Owners

I got the letter and what a frightening insight to the bureaucratic mind this had been so far. Got the letter (by registered mail). Phoned them up, told them I surrendered them to CPS last year. So send us a copy says them, well I already did last year but it doesn't state the mags on the receipt because it was a bunch of stuff I turned in. So this idiot woman I'm talking to tells me to take the *rifle* to the police station to have it verified. No way am I doing that, says I, we're all in agreement that I have the rifle and what will that achieve exactly? You can show them the ten-round mags you have now, she says. Er... that still doesn't prove I turned in the 25 round mags.

Anyway I gave up and phoned the Alberta CFO, who basically said to me that they didn't agree with the CFC (for the same reasons as me) and they wouldn't grant me an ATT to go to the police station anyway, so forget it, go down there and see if the police can find a record of the turn-in.

So I go down there with the case#, and the desk officer cannot believe this whole story I am telling her and can't believe the fuss they're making over .22 rifle mags but she does find a copy of the property record which says I turned them in. However I cannot get that record unless I pay CPS $30.

Screw that, I'm not paying $30, I'm already out $70 for the mags!

So basically tomorrow I'm going to give the CFC the case# and they can go screw themselves if that isn't good enough, clearly CPS isn't going to come out and arrest me for something they have a record of me turning over to them.

There's nothing in the law that compels me to supply that information to them so bollocks.
 
cybershooters said:
I got the letter and what a frightening insight to the bureaucratic mind this had been so far. Got the letter (by registered mail). Phoned them up, told them I surrendered them to CPS last year. So send us a copy says them, well I already did last year but it doesn't state the mags on the receipt because it was a bunch of stuff I turned in. So this idiot woman I'm talking to tells me to take the *rifle* to the police station to have it verified. No way am I doing that, says I, we're all in agreement that I have the rifle and what will that achieve exactly? You can show them the ten-round mags you have now, she says. Er... that still doesn't prove I turned in the 25 round mags.

Anyway I gave up and phoned the Alberta CFO, who basically said to me that they didn't agree with the CFC (for the same reasons as me) and they wouldn't grant me an ATT to go to the police station anyway, so forget it, go down there and see if the police can find a record of the turn-in.

So I go down there with the case#, and the desk officer cannot believe this whole story I am telling her and can't believe the fuss they're making over .22 rifle mags but she does find a copy of the property record which says I turned them in. However I cannot get that record unless I pay CPS $30.

Screw that, I'm not paying $30, I'm already out $70 for the mags!

So basically tomorrow I'm going to give the CFC the case# and they can go screw themselves if that isn't good enough, clearly CPS isn't going to come out and arrest me for something they have a record of me turning over to them.

There's nothing in the law that compels me to supply that information to them so bollocks.
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Wow! That's horrible.
 
I was at Lanz today, and apparently the CFO has been telling Ontario owners they have to bring the mags to a verifier to check they are pinned properly.

What good does that do?

The mags aren't serialized or registered! You have no idea how many I own, or have changed hands privately!

These asshats won't be satisfied till they have search warrants for every home of customers that bought the guns, to be sure you don't have any unpinned mags!

Even though the 25 round 10/22 right beside the SW in the safe is perfectly legal!

This whole thing is nothing but discouraging ownership of these guns and a make work project for these useless f cks!

I am so sick of this crazy ####!

How has dumb wasteful #### like this not caught the attention of our Government, and why are they not putting an end to thid crap?

Any person I have ever explained such a thing to, and shown the useless laws such as restricting AR's and not a mini 14 or RFB, or now this BS with the SW vs. A 10/22, can see what a useless waste of time it is!

Why can't these idiots?

Rant over.
 
Shooter1of38 said:
Glad I have four black dog 50 round drum mags. Totally legal and baby seals can sleep safe again......
What a crock of sh*t.
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Actually since they fit into the mythical pistol 15-22 variant, they are likely prohibited as well, just the CFO is unaware of them. If they found them in your possession you'd likely get a bunch of bureaucratic paper criminal BS to deal with.

mlehtovaara said:
These asshats won't be satisfied till they have search warrants for every home of customers that bought the guns, to be sure you don't have any unpinned mags!
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Ever since I received the registered mail RCMP letter, I expect this home inspection make work project to be next... I think they have found something interesting to them to justify their existence and will be flogging this waste of time issue as much as they can so baby seals will be safe everywhere and media releases of dangerous devices removed from the streets will follow...
 
Max Owner said:
What are the chances of getting a sympathetic MP to challenge the waste of resources of this?
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Pretty close to zero, especially since if one reads the letter of the law it can be argued to be correct.

I actually expect that when we finally see the Conservative's plan to end the gun registry it will be some watered down crap, which will have a bunch of extra new regulations to appease the anti's attached to it. Hope they prove me wrong.
 
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