MauroUlisse
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What do you think about this AR opinions please
Lmt 308
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They are quite accurate but they are not light. As a DMR or semi auto precision platform they are a lot of bang for the buck compared to 5-6K system like KAC and Swiss arms. With the SS barrel I will feel that I am on equal ground if I have to compete against other shooters who show up with HK762 and KAC SR25. The design is also battle proven by the Brits now.
Ar180shooter
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Very interesting, I hadn't heard that before.
Edit: I looked it up and found some really good pics of it in British service.
(Pics from The Firearms Blog)
CarbineOne
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The LMT is very accurate (mine is a CL 16"), but definitely does not shoot as smooth as the SR-25 EMC or the SAPR. Also is heavier (10.5lbs vs. 8.75lbs, on a postal scale) and not as well balanced relative to the SR-25.
For the price, it is 80% the gun of an EMC.
For the price, it is 80% the gun of an EMC.
You know that for sure, or is just another Rumor, How do you know for sure that the SR25 are smoother rifle than the LMT?, did you actually shoot both rifle?, are both rifle same barrel length? I can agree that if you were to shoot the SR25 with a Muffle sure it be smoother.
Really now do tell.
I'll leave it to LMT to make public the names of their customers (not my place to do so), but I am aware of two foreign governments (not counting the Brits) that purchased LMT 308's.
It was also told to me by LMT that some of the 308 rifles were being used within the US military. If they lied to me then so be it, but frankly I believed them.
If you know differently then please go ahead and share the details... that way we can all enjoy the popcorn
Mark
CarbineOne
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For the price, it's very difficult to beat. Outside of tuned and rebarrled DPMS/Armalite rifles.
As krausb stated, I own both.
Top - LMT 308MWS
Bottom - KAC SR-25 EMC
My original comparison was between the LMT w/ the PWS FSC30 brake, XH308 extra heavy buffer, and the SR-25EMC with the standard M110 flash hider.
The SR-25 EMC had moderately more felt recoil, but it was far smoother and easier to drive back onto target. Consequently, effective speed vs. accuracy was nearly identical.
With that brake it's currently wearing in the picture, I can shoot it as fast as an unbraked 5.56mm rifle.
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CarbineOne
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I used that specific comparison to highlight how smooth the SR-25 is. Without the brake and heavier buffer, there is no comparison.
Myself and Paulinski should have a comprehensive review of the LMT done soon. His will be wearing a Nightforce 2.5-10x32 (for accuracy), and mine will be dressed in an Acog 6x (should be here in a few days) similar to the L129A1. I've got about 12 different types of ammo to send downrange. The review will be along the same lines as my PWS mk110 review.
live4therut
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Please share where you sourced out the 6x Acog
The MWS with a 16" chromed bore is a consistant 2moa gun.
Guys will bleat on about sub-moa at 100 - but that is for the most part luck.
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Scott and I have both shot repeated sub-moa groups at 100 with the 16" MWS... time after time... target after target. If as you say that's "most part luck" then I guess we should be buying lottery tickets.
If it was just "luck" as you say then how is it that we are doing it repeatedly and consistently?
I have also had a number of our customers who purchased rifles report back that they are getting sub-moa results from theirs as well... are you saying they are just lucky too?
Perhaps there's something wrong with your rifle or perhaps you haven't tried the right ammunition?
Here is a testing target Scott and I shot back in May 2010... 3 x 5 shot groups with my MK11 MOD1 Knights, 3 x 5 shot groups with the LMT MWS 308 16" standard barrel, 2 x 5 shot groups with a 20" DPMS 308. Both the Knights and the LMT shot 1 group of @ 1moa and 2 groups sub-moa... the DPMS was not so good that day but in fairness it was Scott's personal rifle and setup for his own re-loads and the factory ammo we were using for testing did not perform well in his barrel.
https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/q_images/308TestFiring1_Page_09.jpg
This was NOT a setup or a select sampling... these were actual results... no "luck" involved. It took us a couple of targets to get the rifle sighted in, but right from the start we were getting better than the 2 moa you indicate you are getting.
Mark
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I agree with Mark. My 16" CL MWS would consistently shoot 1 MOA or better from the prone at 100 yds with FGMM. 0.65" to 0.8" on a "lucky" day (5 rnd groups measured center to center). No offence to beltfed, but I find it funny that he can tease spectacular groups out of his Tavor ( A gun I can't seem to master to save my life), but can not do the same with his MWS.
