22-250 and 223 for deer

in novascotia 23 cal or bigger for big game,but since it is legal here to use a 410 shotgun and slugs/buckshot for deer.i see no reason why the centerfire 22 cal cannot be used.they have more kenetic energy than the 410.can they kill a deer YES.would they be my first choice NO.not with all the other calibers we have to choose from.
 
Ahh the .223 users are better hunters than the rest of us thread returns.
They are the shot placement, use of extra special judgement and restraint wizzards!! So much more skilled, disciplined and knowledgeable than us 100grain plus boys!!

Any centrefire in Ontario, but these threads have shown me there are enough tards using sub deer cartridges that we should consider another freakin law.

Because in reality, if you don't have the judgement and common sense to choose a humane calibre before the season, what kind of decisions you gonna be making in the deer woods??

I consider them borderline poachers.

It's these types of yahoos that make it unlikely we will ever be able to handgun hunt.
 
If it comes to a vote, I will vote against it. I see all sorts of problems from idiots who will try to use a .22 centre fire improperly, with the wrong bullets, from too far, and with bad placement that will result in wounded, suffering animals. My objection has nothing to do with whether or not it can be done, because it can. It has to do with the ignorance and stupidity of too many "hunters".

I don't think it's a good idea at all.

So...just like licensing and registration, we should apply stupid regulations against the masses because of the ignorance of a few?
 
If .223 is good enough for humans it should be good enough for deer,

Thats why it takes 2 to 3 rounds to drop a person with. 223 with good shot placement. . most people can only get a genral torso shot on a standing deer at 200 and rely on the sheer kenetic energy and cavitation of the larger rounds to mess up the vital orgins... Now imagine having to hit the heart dead on to drop the animal instantly. A basic lung shot won't drop a deer with 223 it will run... And god forbid you hit a rib or a gut shot shooting at 200 you will end up traking for hours
I think allowing hunting large game with a round that small is cruel
 
Wow, there sure are a lot of self righteous, judge and jury, hand pounding opinions being posted....I don't believe the question asked was to limit the maximum caliber to 22-250 and .223 but just if it should be allowed as an alternative. I also believe in BC the limitation for deer is simply centerfire.
 
So...just like licensing and registration, we should apply stupid regulations against the masses because of the ignorance of a few?

Aside from the absurd analogy, yes. I am perfectly willing to make laws due to the ignorance of a few. That's what ALL laws are about. I want a law that forces the stupid to drive sober. Any civilized society will have to have restrictions on everyone because of the ignorance of a few. I want it to be illegal for me to murder you, so it's illegal for you to murder me. I'm not an anarchist.

The particular analogy of licensing and registration is a really bad one, because neither of those restrictions does anything to protect anyone from harm cause by the "ignorance of a few". That's why the gun lobby arguments against licensing and registration are correct. They are wrong precisely because they do nothing about the stupid or the criminal.

Try not to argue the ridiculous, because ridiculous arguments about "freedom" do nothing to ensure essential freedoms; they just make us look ridiculous.
 
Still missing almost half, yes I fuged up on the 22 hipower thing, oh boy do I feel stupid:rolleyes:

BC any centerfire
AB .23 or larger
SK .23 or larger
MB less than .23 not recomended does this = illegal?
ONT any centerfire
QC
NS .23 or larger
NFLD illegal
NB
PEI
YK
NWT
NU
 
Originally Posted by NShunter1254
With all the choices we have for calibers that are in the quick humane kill category why would anyone want to go with a 22-250 0r 223 for deer?



pharaoh2
Why would we need so many other choices? It's about personal choice. Not everyone wants to be like you.


You mean to tell me not everyone wants a quick humane kill?
 
... Now imagine having to hit the heart dead on to drop the animal instantly.


You haven't shot a lot of animals have you?

A heart-shot deer can easily run 50-60 yards before piling up.


The only way to guarantee a drop in the tracks shot is to take out the central nervous system with either a spine or brain shot - both of which are risky at the best of times.

A shot close to the spine can also cause a deer to drop in it's tracks only to jump back to it's feet and run off. That is the reason most seasoned hunters will get ready for a second shot when an animal instantly drops.
 
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