AR upper with no forward assist

[Clobbersauras]

This thread is getting friggen ridiculous. I love teasing people on this forum but calling members out to see their photos and s**t is lame.

As I posted earlier, I've used my FA once to correct a malfunction I caused. I see no reason not to keep the FA as part of the design, unless you want to be jamming your thumb into a smoking hot bolt carrier or using a multi-tool, your #### or crack pipe, or whatever else you want to stick in there, when a simple slap of the FA would correct it.

 

[Nester]

uh oh....

I think some people's heads are going to explode now that Kevin has stated the above.

KevinB has zippers in his combat boots


http://4.bp.########.com/-tOv7xM7Sauk/TYe6cBTaK0I/AAAAAAAAAto/JIicVS_vxoo/s1600/il_570xN.227846537.jpg

 

[recce]

Lmao

 

[wicked_police]

I'll take zippers in my boots over zippers No insults

 

[wicked_police]

Everyone has an action figure now a days...

No insults

 

[misanthropist]

I'll take zippers in my boots over zippers No insults

Erin has a nurse's uniform with a bunch of zippers and buckles. Actually it's not bad IMO. I prefer it to Kevin's boots anyway...no offense Kev

 

[jmiddy]

pre-anodized.

Can i get one of these without the stupid cutout for the charging handle and how much!!!!!!!!!

 

[wicked_police]

Erin has a nurse's uniform with a bunch of zippers and buckles. Actually it's not bad IMO. I prefer it to Kevin's boots anyway...no offense Kev

I should have clarified... No insults Like the action figure above.

 

[Nester]

Zing!~







Your wit astounds me there wicked police...









WTF?

 

[enefgee]

Prefer ties on your scrubs WP?

 

[KevinB]

I think Nester was joking in the above...

We specifically made the SR-635 uppers with no Forward Assist.


The SR-25's:
Well we made about 8 different type of forward assists, however our ejector has over 60 in/lb's force so you need to overcome that in a FwdA, so unless your Gigantor you need some sort of mechanical advantage.

Back to 5.56mm:
If your guns lubed, the action spring will excert enough force to chamber a round -- if you need the FwdA, then either you rode the Charging Handle - or have a round you dont want in the chamber, if my gun does not go into battery - I rack the action, not try to push the bolt closed.

I'm not calling folks out for their desires either way, I'm just saying for me personally I'd be fine without it in a 5.56mm gun.

 

[Craftsman 441]

Could this thread be any more CGN?

 

[Vanish]

So now that the industry expert has said it, we are all good? And it appears we have a picture of him too!

 

[Leibermuster]

I think Nester was joking in the above...

We specifically made the SR-635 uppers with no Forward Assist.


The SR-25's:
Well we made about 8 different type of forward assists, however our ejector has over 60 in/lb's force so you need to overcome that in a FwdA, so unless your Gigantor you need some sort of mechanical advantage.

Back to 5.56mm:
If your guns lubed, the action spring will excert enough force to chamber a round -- if you need the FwdA, then either you rode the Charging Handle - or have a round you dont want in the chamber, if my gun does not go into battery - I rack the action, not try to push the bolt closed.

I'm not calling folks out for their desires either way, I'm just saying for me personally I'd be fine without it in a 5.56mm gun.

Don't argue with me kev..........

Now why don't you bring that nice little rifle in the pic's there in quantity to Canada for us CGNers.

 

[wicked_police]

I'd like a couple of those grips.....

 

[gofaster775]

I'd like a couple of those grips.....

Forget the grips, I want a couple of those rifles!

 

[The Giant]

I pushed my forward assist today at the range just to pay homage to this thread. It felt great but didn't accomplish much.

 

[enefgee]

I'd settle for the upper - the lower I can take or leave.

 

[tjhaile]

Ummm ALL of those have exposed large metal tabs attached too their bolt/carrier/breech block that do exactly the same thing as the FA when used to push the bolt "forward" into battery...

With a couple exceptions, most FALs and G3s do not have any means of pushing the bolt forward manually.

 

[TDC]

How many soldiers need to disagree with you before you open your ears and stop telling the growing line of us to get back on the short bus?

If you need me I'm going to go start a thread comparing the C6 to the M240B and see how long I takes you to chime in there.

For the love of god tell me that isn't really this TDC fellow? If THAT'S what is telling me "how I roll" I will honestly loose my s**t.

So what you're saying is just because your pay cheque comes from big green you somehow know all there is about running a rifle? As Kevin posted, the CF still teaches outdated ignorant TTP's like using the FA. I don't mean any disrespect to soldiers as I appreciate their service. However, just because you wear cammies does not make you right. Other than Kevin and a handful of other soldiers I've personally met and shot with, the vast majority haven't a clue how their rifle works, nor how to run them effectively. They practice the ignorant crap they're taught and regurgitate it as gospel.

Ummm ALL of those have exposed large metal tabs attached too their bolt/carrier/breech block that do exactly the same thing as the FA when used to push the bolt "forward" into battery...

I agree that the fixe charge handles CAN be used like an FA but they were not intended as such. The FN-FAL doesn't have either option.

It's not to push a round into the chamber but push the BCG forward when the round is already properly seated in the chamber but has stopped because the BCG is not fully forward and has grinned to a halt, i have seen this with sand and carbon fouling, sometimes just with sand. Once my self and another time with a cpl on a different ex.

But yeah besides that and doing a press check or silence is crucial cleaning when danger is close, it is not needed.

So you're saying the FA is for PUSHING the BCG into battery? But the BCG by default is designed and intended to push a CARTRIDGE into the chamber. So what you said was that the FA is for pushing the BCG and subsequently a live round into the chamber, but above in bold you claim the FA is not for pushing a round into the chamber? What I'm getting is that you have no idea what you're talking about. If you push the BCG forward/into battery, you're pushing a round into the chamber.

The issue about what caused the stoppage is a whole new discussion. Regardless, TAP/TUG/RACK will solve the problem.

In regards to another post about SLIP2000 EWL. It is a specifically designed LUBRICANT not a three in one like that sh*t CLP. In addition, it is far less viscous than CLP which helps it(SLIP) stay where you put it. Still not as effective as grease(in the long term) but far better than CLP.

Frankly color me in the no need for a Forward assist group.

The ONLY time I have seen a use for it (outside of rather outdated CF drills) is if the bolt does not go fully into battery doing a press check. Then even then, Mr Thumb can be used on the cuttout on the carrier.

Nothing is gained by trying to push a round into the chamber.

I'm not running out to cut them off my guns, but we made some guns for a program that specifically did not have them, and given the option to build my own gun, I would leave it off - as I dont use it.

I guess Kevin must be stupid too right? He has no experience in gunfights/combat/military service/firearms industry.

Thanks Kevin, and the others(clobb, petrock) for their mature responses in this debate.

TDC