Ruger #1/3 Why so much?

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Ruger #1's and #3's are often quite expensive (for a single shot) and I more often than not hear of sub par accuracy...2" more or less @ 100, I know this is more than necessary at hunting distances. It's just that its touted as a model of simplicity, with only a couple of moving parts, .........therefore, why does it cost so much? I own lots of Rugers. (Rimfires and 3 model 77's and a S/A rimfire combo pistol) , and I love them. But why so much disparity in price, if they are "easy" to make?
Make me understand why I should pay 12 or 13 hundred for a new one?
I have 2 single shot rifles, and am not a slouch in the single shot department.
I love singles, as I still love to hunt as I did as a kid.
BUT, the wood often looks average, fit and finish was good when I held several, but not , in my eyes, worth the money. Maybe a nice Farquharson.......http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=farqu...BOIQpMgM:&imgrefurl=http://luxusgunstock.com/
 
I think that if you would write such a post, you should just not bother to buy one. In fact, if you find that there is some thing of any type available that you don't want, the best course of action would be to not buy it.
 
I've got 4 ruger rifles. One is a #1 in .303 British. It groups 1 1/2 inches with Federal 150 grain cartridges and sub-1 inch with Remington 180 grain core-lokts. That is pretty good shooting for a moose/deer rifle.

My #1 dropped my last whiteltail at 320 yards, I'd say that is OK.

For pricing, my #1 was a bit over $1,100. I see the Browning/Winchesters are more expensive. The H@Rs are cheaper though.
 
rral22 said:
I think that if you would write such a post, you should just not bother to buy one. In fact, if you find that there is some thing of any type available that you don't want, the best course of action would be to not buy it.
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What's wrong with this post? The OP asked a valid question in my opinion and I too am curious. I have looked at and admired these Rugers for years, and have always passed because of the unjustified price...(IMO) Do you have a personal experience you would like to share?
 
One problem is that they most likely sell less of them so they are priced higher.My #3 in 45-70 with my one handload will shoot clover leafs.It kicks like a mule but is nice to carry up a few mountains. My #1 has very nice wood I am told. It shoots okay also but is harder to keep it sighted in for some reason.Could be the rings or the scope.
 
Here's a very nice Rossi single shot that can be had for about $1K less than a new Ruger.

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Or you could buy a Blaser, Krieghoff or Merkel single shot for about 4-6x the "low" cost of a Ruger - depends what your standards are and what you like!
 
Bassmaster said:
What's wrong with this post? The OP asked a valid question in my opinion and I too am curious. I have looked at and admired these Rugers for years, and have always passed because of the unjustified price...(IMO) Do you have a personal experience you would like to share?
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While I do have very limited experience with 2 #1's, and I do like them a lot, I don't own any because they are so expensive (is that irony?)

I'm just saying, why bother to try so hard to like something the OP doesn't seem to like? Why not simply say: if you don't like it, just don't get one? Where on earth does the desire to be talked into believing in the value of something, come from?

What is valuable to YOU should be what you want. You shouldn't worry a bit about things others think are valuable, but which you do not want.
 
rral22 said:
While I do have very limited experience with 2 #1's, and I do like them a lot, I don't own any because they are so expensive (is that irony?)

I'm just saying, why bother to try so hard to like something the OP doesn't seem to like? Why not simply say: if you don't like it, just don't get one? Where on earth does the desire to be talked into believing in the value of something, come from?

What is valuable to YOU should be what you want. You shouldn't worry a bit about things others think are valuable, but which you do not want.
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its not that I don't like them. I think they are really nice looking rifles. I just don't understand how a gun with (I think) 4 moving parts can cost so much. Maybe there is much more to gun making than I know , which is why I am asking. I like the longer barrel d/t no action. But, for $1200 +/- I figured I could be justified in asking. Its not like they all have exhibition grade walnut on them or what have you. I own single shots, but I want to know why they are worth 4 of my single shots?
 
Try this: pick up a #1 in one hand, and an H&R in the other. Look'em over, work the actions, and then imagine real hard why they don't cost the same. Like any product in the marketplace, their retail price is determined by how much it costs the manufacturer to produce and distribute them, as well as how much the public is willing to pay for them. If the Ruger doesn't seem to be worth the money to you...don't buy one. I would wager that the average accuracy of the H&R is very similar to that of the Ruger. If all the other intangibles don't matter to you, then consider yourself lucky, buy the H&R, enjoy shooting it, and bank the savings.
 
I think #1's cost what they do because of the complexity of the rifle. Look how many parts are in a #1 vs a bolt action. I personally cant believe they sell for as little as they do.
 
I agree that they are more exp. to produce, more steel, more fitting, they are the least expensive of the quality single shots.
 
I like and own Ruger No 1's ,Coopers, Kimbers , Pre 64 model 70's there seems to be a pattern, I don't like or own, Steven;s savage, Norinco, Stoeger, Baikal everyone has difference taste and appreciates a certain level of quality . Quality costs more $$$
 
sgt.rock said:
its not that I don't like them. I think they are really nice looking rifles. I just don't understand how a gun with (I think) 4 moving parts can cost so much. Maybe there is much more to gun making than I know , which is why I am asking. I like the longer barrel d/t no action. But, for $1200 +/- I figured I could be justified in asking. Its not like they all have exhibition grade walnut on them or what have you. I own single shots, but I want to know why they are worth 4 of my single shots?
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You need to read some Robert Pirsig as a start in the investigation of what quality is, and why it is important. Seriously. That is the best advice I can give. Start with Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, and then read Lila.
 
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