I agree.
I hate trespassers....
- Thread starter tactical870
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I agree.
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- Saskatchewan
I would have to agree with this... If he said leave it be, then I would leave it be. He may just say to hell with it and not let anyone out there (or let everyone out there) to save himself the hassle of dealing with any drama. I understand you put a lot in it and it sucks to have someone out there who doesn't have the written approval, but aside from putting a note in your blind and you catching them and putting the run on them yourself there isn't a whole lot you could or should do here. Good luck.
tactical870
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- Buckhorn, Ontario
I'm just astounded at the people here who take trespassing so lightly...... I consider it a very serious offence.
That's because, like me, you are from ontario south..... and land is hard to find.... when you have little of something you get an appreciation for it.... that's why I saved my $ and bought my own.... I get pissed off when local neighbors let their dogs run loose on my land let alone their children...
I dont know about others, but I can say I dont take tresspass lightly.
But it seems like most are saying is that it is not your land that is being trespassed on and if the land owner does not wish to do anything its not your problem. And there is nothing you can do unless you want to possibly loose your permission to hunt that land.
Yes it sucks that this guy is ruining your hunting spot but unless you want to go against the land owners wishes and take action on your own, there is little you can do.
As do many here. But your issue is with the land owner as obviously he does not. And it is his land after all.
Shawn
Trespassing and misuse of other peoples property is a big deal. You have every right to be upset. Quiet frankly, you are not the only one who is puzzled by lax attitude of some folks on this website toward trespassing.
I think you are seeing that based on the fact that the land in question doesn't belong to the OP and the landowner himself doesn't care.... I am not saying that attitude is right... just pointing out the facts....
bearkilr
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Just a wild guess here, but I'd bet those who don't see trespassing as an offence don't own much or any of their own land.
I'm going to disagree. Say you borrow your buddies truck all the time. Then someone else uses it, he doesn't care should you be pissed? It's not your truck. It's not the OP's land, the farmer doesn't care if someone is there. Leave a note in the blind and tell the guy to stay out, remove your blind between hunts, and until the farmer cares, don't worry about it.
I have a place I hunt where the farmer will not let any one hunt. There's a guy who comes across three fields to hunt the "no hunting area". Sure I'm pissed, but it's not my property, not even my farmers property so what can I do but watch this guy from my tree stand, and he is between me and "my" deer. My hands are tied. What am I going to do, go complain to a farmer who doesn't ant any one on his land that someone is there, complain to my farmer, or suck it up. Not my land, so I suck it and am thankful a land owner has given permission where I am welcome to hunt anytime I choose.
Again I want to stress, it's not that we don't think it's a big deal, it's that it's not the OP's property and the property owner doesn't care.
Tell your landowner that. Get in his face about it.
And if you trespass on my farm, while armed, and I catch you, expect an educational experience. You will learn serious.
By the same token, the farmers I share fencelines with, and do business with, pretty much cross as they need to ( rarely ). And nobody usually takes advantage of that give and take.
You go on somebody elses land, want to make your rules. And wonder why permission can be hard to get.
tactical870
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- Buckhorn, Ontario
Actually the landowner was the one who asked me to kick out anyone I find trespassing. I'm not making the rules, nor am I doing anything to upset the landowner. Him not wanting to deal with things personally is a complete other matter. He owns a large company in town and I suspect he doesn't want to rub anyone the wrong way.
- Location
- Saskatchewan
Got more land with our brand grazing on it and our hay and crops growing on it than most people could even fathom. We do have some posted land, because we have cows out there usually until the middle of December. If we had a guy ask to go hunt on it and then piss and moan when he saw signs of other people out there, then go contact the CO when we said not to, that person would never be welcome on ANY of ours. Its not your land, do act like it is.
Look up and tell me who didn't read....
bearkilr
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You misread my reply, though I'm not sure how or why. I'm referring to those who don't see trespassing as an offence.
If you want to let anyone hunt your land and are apprehensive ( read: chickens**t) to charge trespassers, that's your privilege as a landowner as well.
tactical870
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- Buckhorn, Ontario
And if you gave a guy permission and told him that you didn't want anyone else on the property and to please kick them out you'd be upset if he did? The landowner never told me not to contact the CO, just that he didn't want to press charges. My suggestion was that a CO could lay charges because the guy is breaking the law by not having written permission as required under the regulations. This is completely different from the situation you're describing. Also, the farms here are 100 acres and things are a little different than out west....
I swear people don't read threads before replying....
You also live in a province that forces you as a taxpaying landwner to post your land so folks don't tresspass.... life just isn't like that here... and nor should it be.. you work hard to cultivate and farm your land... you shouldn't be expected to put up with some citiot road hunting it like it was ther own....
And if you gave a guy permission and told him that you didn't want anyone else on the property and to please kick them out you'd be upset if he did? The landowner never told me not to contact the CO, just that he didn't want to press charges. My suggestion was that a CO could lay charges because the guy is breaking the law by not having written permission as required under the regulations. This is completely different from the situation you're describing. Also, the farms here are 100 acres and things are a little different than out west....
I swear people don't read threads before replying....
Just out of curiosity what do you think a CO would do in this situation?
If I was a CO and someone came to me a said they would like to charge someone for trespassing or hunting without permission what do you think the first question I would ask is?
Are you the land owner.
And your answer would be no, what do you think the next thing I (the CO) would do?
Contact the land owner.
And as you have stated what will his answer to this be, that no charges be laid.
Or If the CO does decide to go ahead with the charge the land owner will still be pulled into it by having to swear out a statement saying the person caught had no permission.
Either way the land owner gets involved, which is clearly not his wish in this situation.
Face it, it sucks but its not up to you.
Shawn
tactical870
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- Buckhorn, Ontario
The law here states you must have written permission on you. Not that you must have permission. Regardless of having permission or not, you can be charged if you do not have a letter from the landowner. There's no reason for the landowner to be involved for that particular charge.
