Is 30/30 a good caliber to hunt deer?
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Yup, the one thing that stopped me emigrating was your peculiar game laws, USA is bad enough but Canada takes the biscuit. It actually broke my heart not moving but I take consolation from knowing my hunting only costs me diesel for the truck and sometimes (well quite often) I GET PAID FOR IT!you lucky B@$tArd
RememberTheSomme
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We have a Winner! I knew it would finally come to this.
Now the old girl is better than a .308Winchester.
Seems the .30-30 is much better on killing brush then it is on deer.
Do people intentionally shoot through as many trees as possible before impacting the living entity? Never tried this, maybe this is what makes the .30-30 so lethal, it needs to be expanded in hardwood first, because living tissue offers no such resistance for expansion to it's lackluster velocity.
the guy asked 2 simple questions and was just looking for simple answers (not sh*T pumps)!
at the ranges you are looking to hunt at a 30-30 works fine.ammunition is cheaper and usually easily purchased most places.
a 30-30 works good for a second follow up shot because it doesnt kick you like a mule.or give you scope rings around your eye. if he wants to go mag later at least he has a good start.
the rifle you inquired about is a good rifle for the money.
Congradulations for starting a new shooter /hunter !
at the ranges you are looking to hunt at a 30-30 works fine.ammunition is cheaper and usually easily purchased most places.
a 30-30 works good for a second follow up shot because it doesnt kick you like a mule.or give you scope rings around your eye. if he wants to go mag later at least he has a good start.
the rifle you inquired about is a good rifle for the money.
Congradulations for starting a new shooter /hunter !
We have a Winner! I knew it would finally come to this.
Now the old girl is better than a .308Winchester.
Seems the .30-30 is much better on killing brush then it is on deer.
Do people intentionally shoot through as many trees as possible before impacting the living entity? Never tried this, maybe this is what makes the .30-30 so lethal, it needs to be expanded in hardwood first, because living tissue offers no such resistance for expansion to it's lackluster velocity.
Not that your wrong about it not being a brush busting cartridge. I can't believe that this thread has gone on for so long
RememberTheSomme
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So discussing the virtues of a cartridge has become trolling. Okay, carry on with the thutty-thutty love in please.
So discussing the virtues of a cartridge has become trolling. Okay, carry on with the thutty-thutty love in please.
LOL... indeed... appears the 30-30 crowd is buried in the world of 30-30.... god forbid you mention other choices.... they are all overkill... wonder how they would all feel about the 30-30 ackley if it was still available?.... and why they don't shoot it now?... was it inadequate?.... why did they develop it further?
I tried to read through most of this, and there was some great things said, but way to much stupid.
The 30/30 in a good platform (Marlin 336, Winchester 94, etc.) is a great idea for a new shooter. Low recoil, fast handling and a great cartridge to 150yds given the right sights. I used one myself for kicks on the prairies and had no issue, and it had more than enough "thump".
The fact that this is on page 31 is a testimony to it being winter.
The 30/30 in a good platform (Marlin 336, Winchester 94, etc.) is a great idea for a new shooter. Low recoil, fast handling and a great cartridge to 150yds given the right sights. I used one myself for kicks on the prairies and had no issue, and it had more than enough "thump".
The fact that this is on page 31 is a testimony to it being winter.
So discussing the virtues of a cartridge has become trolling. Okay, carry on with the thutty-thutty love in please.
Actually i was refering to this
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, and i was refering to it in a sarcastic way. No need to be so defensive. Im not trying to suggest that hotter rounds are worse at all, just simply acknowldging that it doesn't take a 30-06 class cartridge to kill a deer. In fact i even said that the lever action 30-30 is a niche gun cartridge combo. The fact though is that niche fits alot of people. Hard to argue a bolt 30-06 with a 2-7 for a do it all gun, but a 30-30 lever gun will work for close up timber hunting which eastern hunters frequently encounter. My .02
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Tim I love the idea of hunting the UK one day as I chatted by pm with you before, but to say you didn't come because of our game laws is a laugh for me like no other! Think of the species you can hunt here, far more than just deer and birds... Moose, Elk, Bison, bears, Sheep, Goats, Cougar, Wolf, and on... I'll take well managed seasons and millions of acres of crown land at my disposal any day. Hunting in Canada is world class, people come from the UK and spend $35,000 on a sheep hunt for good reason.
We can do that same hunt for the price of diesel too, better deal.
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Nothing wrong with mentioning other choices,..but when you suggest that the 30-30 is not as effective or ethical as more powerful cartridegs, for deer in the 100 yrd range,... you're credibility gets flushed....
There are lots of cartridges taking animals that have only the energy of a 30/30 or less at target...
Nothing wrong with mentioning other choices,..but when you suggest that the 30-30 is not as effective or ethical as more powerful cartridegs, for deer in the 100 yrd range,... you're credibility gets flushed....
There are lots of cartridges taking animals that have only the energy of a 30/30 or less at target...
Agreed... and I never said a 30-30 wouldn't do the trick.... but maybe the OP added stuff that made the choice harder... for example, we all think his boy should do range practice... hmm... he is at the range and he has a 30-30... his mates have a .308.... he wants to get into longer ranges ie. 300 yards...like what they are shooting.... he has a .30 -30 his mates have a .308.... hmmmm....
Again, wil la 30-30 do the trick under 100... for sure... is it kiddos best first rifle?.... I'd rather my boy has somethiung to grow with... and something that will suit most of his hunting and shooting needs.... not just now... but for years to come
Not trying to be a smart ass, but have you ever killed a deer over 200 yards in ontario timber. There aren't very many places in the areas that i hunt that i could even see 300 yards let alone shoot it. If a deer is out past 300 in ontario timber from my experince that puts it into the "pass" category
3 years ago I shot one that was 250 out..... I preyed on a situation that I knew required a long shot.... I commute the 401 every day and I spotted a herd for a year... then realised that there were a few bucks in that herd... I also spotted what would be a huge ten point crossing the field, nose to the ground and chasing a doe....
I set up on the draw along the west side of that field the next day...
I shot a 6 point that wandered out and was not even close to the original ten point deer I spotted... that being said, I did it at 250 .... and had full confidence in my round... maybe I am the exception to the rule... I can accept that... but I like having open options....
RememberTheSomme
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X3. It's a
topic. I could write a book, and I nearly did for a new thread on my observations over the years to its effectiveness, but lost interest and deleted all. All's good, I like the Marlin 336TS by the way, circa 1985. The cartridge,....that's for another thread............
Happy New Year.
This year was a typical Ontario whitetail season for me. In the rifle season I shot my deer at around 5 feet with a .308. in the Southern Ontario black powder only season I shot my deer at around 100 yds. Where it's actually legal to hunt deer with a rifle I've never shot one at over 75 yds. I'm sure others have different experiences especially the guys from out West, but I think the 30-30 is a great bush gun.
Fair enough, although thats not really the timber hunting that the OP was asking about. Im in the Highlands , and there sure isn't significant farmland here so like i said those kinds of distances aren't a concern for me. I thought that everything that you'd see from the 401 would be in the shotgun only area's or did you make that shot with a sabot slug. I can agree with the wanting options. Truth be told im getting a rem 7600 in 270 for when im stand hunting and might get some longer shots.
RememberTheSomme
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.270Winchester, now you're spreading your wings, aww.... theres alot of good things in the future for you.
